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Battling bumper bigotry: DMV fights ugly messages on the road

Discussion in 'The OT' started by Mark Holtz, Apr 15, 2017.

  1. Apr 21, 2017 #61 of 132
    trh

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    Sort of like "I'll stand on what most of the English speaking world would call a dock" in one post, but ignore what most of the English speaking world defines as a podium.
     
  2. Apr 21, 2017 #62 of 132
    James Long

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    I was inclusive in both instances.

    I am aware that it is common to call a lectern a podium and a pier a dock. I choose not to be offended by either use.

    I also understand that calling a lectern a podium does not make a podium a lectern. Nor does calling a pier a dock make the space in the water a pier.

    And correspondence is a form of conversation.
     
  3. Apr 21, 2017 #63 of 132
    Rich

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    Good question! Don't think I know enough about how words become accepted...or who does the accepting to answer that very well thought out question. Until the other day, I would have happily used lectern as a synonym for podium. Just as I would have used dock as a synonym for pier until I happened upon that article in the encyclopedia I perusing. Only reason I read it was the picture of 3 destroyers tied up to a pier. Only reason that interested me was I saw destroyers tied up just like that every day we were in port.

    Sadly, we do allow the language to...regress? I'd guess you're right, in many instances the words do seem to be changed to something they're just not. Once you see that well written explanation of podium and lectern, it becomes very clear there is a large difference. Who knew? I know now. I really enjoyed that discussion. Learning something new is always a good thing, I think.

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  4. Apr 21, 2017 #64 of 132
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    If you're on a pier, you're next to a dock. We should stop this?

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  5. Apr 21, 2017 #65 of 132
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    I found some differences in the definitions of words between different publishers dictionaries. Kinda puzzled me, I thought all definitions would be pretty much the same across all dictionaries. Asked my boss about that one day, his answer was something like "if all the definitions were nearly equal in all dictionaries why would anyone need more than one?"

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  6. Apr 21, 2017 #66 of 132
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    Well written! I agree.

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  7. Apr 21, 2017 #67 of 132
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    Let me clarify what I said. The only dock reference that was ever used, was dry dock.

    And several of the definitions I saw on dock this week, they used the term 'enclosed area'
    Oxford dictionary: "An enclosed area of water in a port for the loading, unloading, and repair of ships.".
    Merriam-Webster: "a usually artificial basin or enclosure for the reception of ships that is equipped with means for controlling the water height". ​
    London has a bunch of docks that all have gates/locks that they close to control the depth of the water in the dock. Here is an old picture of one of the London docks. near the top right going out into the River Thames, is a gate/lock.
    [​IMG]

    You can use Google Maps to look at some of the current docks in London. There is a public marina near the Tower of London (St. Katharine's Dock). I've been there on several occasions. But I'm not familiar with anything comparable in the US.

    Rich -- a Navy tidbit. The Commanding Officer is responsible for the safety of ship at all times except two situations: When the ship crosses the threshold of a dry dock or enters the Panama Canal. Then the Docking Officer or the Panamanian pilot is responsible.
     
  8. Apr 21, 2017 #68 of 132
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    What does any of this have to do with the topic?

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  9. Apr 22, 2017 #69 of 132
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    So, I wonder now exactly what I am s'posed to be calling them narrow wooden platforms we been usin' ta tie our rowboats and fishin' rigs to since we was kids goin' up ta the lake?

    (I thot we always called 'em docks, but now I guess I'm ta understand that's just the water them boats wuz always sittin' in!)

    Anywaze, how's this fer back-ta-topic?!:


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  10. Apr 22, 2017 #70 of 132
    Delroy E Walleye

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    Besidze, don't the title of this forum says we can taak 'bout other stuff, and I quote,

    "The OT
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  11. Apr 22, 2017 #71 of 132
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    You live in the US? Then go with this definition:
    North American. A structure extending alongshore or out from the shore into a body of water, to which boats may be moored.
     
  12. Apr 22, 2017 #72 of 132
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    and a boat is a hole in the water where you dump money. LOL

    I have always thought of docks as being on lakes and rivers for boats, and piers being in ports for ships.
     
  13. Apr 22, 2017 #73 of 132
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    Ladies and Gentlemen we started talking about bumper bigotry and ended up talking about docks. An example of evolution if I ever saw one.
     
  14. Apr 22, 2017 #74 of 132
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    Let me go a bit more off topic. The discussion about dock and pier reminds me of the conversation I had with a deckhand while on a troop ship headed to Germany in 1953:
    Me: "This certainly is a big boat."
    Deckhand: "It's not a boat, it's a ship."
    Me: "Really? I'll have to go downstairs to think about that."
    Deckhand: "Startled look, giving up..."

    Oh, and if your pay gets docked, does that mean they throw the money in the water? :confused:
     
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  15. Apr 22, 2017 #75 of 132
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    Absolutely nothing. But it's interesting.

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    You would seem to be right. Seem to be...

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  17. Apr 22, 2017 #77 of 132
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    I've been using the piers and docks argument for many years and heard many definitions. Most just wrong. It was pointed out early in this discussion that "dock" was both a noun and a verb and "pier" is just a noun. Doesn't change anything, you still cannot pier a ship or boat. You can write it, you can say it, but using the terminology properly, you just cannot pier a ship.

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  18. Apr 22, 2017 #78 of 132
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    I still don't see how "paszgaz" is bigotry. It's kinda funny, but "bigotry"?

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  19. Apr 22, 2017 #79 of 132
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    That's an argument nobody wins on a warship. Then there's submarines...U Boats? Yup, subs, no matter how large are called boats. I've been on a sub that was larger than our destroyer. Still called a boat.

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  20. Apr 22, 2017 #80 of 132
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    In a article about bigotry what would you what to pass the gas for what purpose?
     

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