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BBC World Channel Coming soon?

Discussion in 'The OT' started by UKintheUS, Dec 23, 2005.

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  1. Dec 25, 2005 #21 of 137
    KyL416

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    PBS is in nearly every home though, and most of the BBC World programming airs on that, and I have a family member who works for WLIW/21, the US distributor of BBC World that airs on PBS, and he said that it is in very much demand here.

    I have a question for you, have you even watched one of the BBC World newscasts? The propoganda you speak of is mostly in the BBC Newscasts that only air in the UK, the BBC World newscasts are a totally different thing. They only have like 2 or 3 stories that cover the USA in a week, more if something major is going on. Otherwise it's mostly about famine in Africa, Israel/Palestine conflict (they rarely metnion the USA when reporting on that), the European Union, United Nations, one or two stories about the UK, and some Iraq stories (but not everyday, only when something major is going on, like elections, they don't report on a random suicide bombing that happens nearly everyday).
     
  2. Dec 25, 2005 #22 of 137
    delphi96

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    So what? How many people do you think are actually watching it on PBS? I doubt it's much, despite whay your family member says. In all my years I have never met any American casually bringing up the BBC and their services.

    Yes, I have watched their programming, in more ways than one.

    Famine in Africa? Yep, that'll really draw in the audience. :D Come America and watch as we make you feel guilty about the famine you cause throughout the world. :rolleyes:

    Don't take my sarcasm personal KyL as it is certainly not directed at you. ;)

    Merry Christmas by the way. :)
     
  3. Dec 25, 2005 #23 of 137
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    So Famine isn't a problem that deserves the world's attention? Also they aren't only targeting the US with stories about it, they are also targeting other major countries that could do something about it.
     
  4. Dec 25, 2005 #24 of 137
    delphi96

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    Not the way it is typically covered as if it is the fault of every western nation, especially America.
     
  5. Dec 25, 2005 #25 of 137
    nrholland

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    Is NDTV broadcast in English?
     
  6. Dec 25, 2005 #26 of 137
    carl6

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    So I am understanding you to say that most of the US produced news which has been written, produced, and paid for by our government to be run as "news" should not be broadcast, correct?

    Get a life delphi96. If you think the US news isn't highly slanted in favor of the US government, you are not living in the real world.

    Having served as a career soldier in the US Army, having voted conservatively most of my life (Bush is working hard to change that), and having lived in a number of countries around the world, I find it highly refreshing to see something besides (in addition to) US networks and their slant on the world. I like to see and hear all sides to an issue. Then (and only then) can I make an informed decision with regard to it.

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  7. Dec 25, 2005 #27 of 137
    kc1ih

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    I'm sure that the people saying the BBC (or PBS or NPR) are far left haven't spent any serious time watching or listening to them in years. They are just repeating the lies generated by far right commentators who want to keep people from even trying out the competition. It's a competitive world out there in media and everything else, but the anti-competitive forces rely on people beleiving their BS about the competition in order to keep people listening to or watching them.
     
  8. Dec 25, 2005 #28 of 137
    Geronimo

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    The BBC is not simply a propaganda arm of the Bristish Govt. It isa respected news service. I don't agree with everything they report and perhaps others do not as well but there is absolutely no reason to bar it from operating here. It has its own perspectice and we would benefit from it.
     
  9. Dec 25, 2005 #29 of 137
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    Don't get me wrong. I hate left wing ant-American proaganda too. I just want more International perspectives and the BBC is a respected news agency.

    From what I understand the BBC is government financed but has safegaurds to keep it from being government influenced. The propaganda they promote is journist activism of the Dan Rather variety and not UK government sponsored.

    BTW: Al Hurra is a US funded Arabic channel that operates outside of the US to Middle Eastern audiences. I support it and think it should have been in place decades ago.
     
  10. Dec 25, 2005 #30 of 137
    mhking

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    I can't call Fox "unfair and unbalanced."

    I am a conservative who works in the news business. I'll be the first one to say that most newscasters allow their own personal biases -- no matter the source -- to enter into their work. They shouldn't, but they're human. We all do.

    Fox doesn't consciously lean that way as a practice, but they do go out of their way to provide a forum for conservative commentators that would not otherwise hold a forum. I can't fault them for that, just as I can't fault those pundits who have a liberal bent their outlet.

    As long as they're honest, I have no quarrel on either side of the coin. I have no problem with FNC sitting next to CNN sitting next to BBC World. Personally, I feel that most news should be freely available. Personal attacks, especially for the sake of personal attacks - which some on both sides of the political aisle are guilty of - is just, plain wrong. Period.

    I'm looking forward to seeing BBC World as well as BET Jazz on D*. But I'm still kind of skeptical.
     
  11. Dec 25, 2005 #31 of 137
    mhking

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    Part of their programming is in English; most is in Hindi.
     
  12. Dec 25, 2005 #32 of 137
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    So because YOU feel that the BBC is "anti-American," they should be denied access?

    Tell me then, what sort of international news should we be "allowed" to have?

    I want to see all sorts of information from overseas. I certainly want to see the perception of the US from overseas. I certainly want to see first-hand what the results of our government's work brings.

    I don't believe the domestic networks can fully provide that viewpoint.

    What I don't need is to only have the viewpoints of pundits from inside the US force-fed to me as a measure of what to think.

    I'm not so insecure in my conservatism that I am afraid of BBC World and their domestic availability.
     
  13. Dec 25, 2005 #33 of 137
    mhking

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    Agreed. I'm not looking for left-wing pablum. What I am looking for is an additional source for news.
     
  14. Dec 25, 2005 #34 of 137
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    I think the only reason you don’t like the BBC is that unlike the FNC it doesn’t broadcast news you want to hear. The BBC is one of the greatest achievements of the UK (Other than the English Language, Parliamentary Democracy, Computers, Television, Telephones, Toilet Paper... you know the kind of thing.)

    Just to make things clear...

    Funding of the BBC

    BBC (TV, Radio, Online) in the UK
    Licence fee, collected by the BBC for the BBC. Must be paid by anyone with the ability to receive Television signals.

    BBC World Service (Radio\Online)
    Funded by the Foreign and Commonwealth Office

    BBC Worldwide
    BBC America, BBC World, etc
    The commercial arm of the BBC. Funded by advertisements, the profit on these operations are put back in to the BBC’s domestic services. ​

    The BBC is and always has been one of the, if not the, most respected Broadcasters in the world. I don’t see how you can say that you live in a free democratic country if you want to ban a foreign Broadcaster just because you don’t like what they broadcast, like Zimbabwe, or China. The BBC has to broadcast impartially it has to and with a Royal Charter renewal up im sure they are being very careful.

    BBC World is watched by "Ofcom" the Office of Communications part of the Department of Media and stuff. You may have heard it came down quite hard on Fox News when it broadcast an "Unfair" piece about the BBC and one of its Reporters (Andrew Gilligan I think). If BBC World did step out of line, like another Broadcaster in the UK it would be held accountable.

    I hope those of you who don't like the BBC actually watch a couple of programmes to find out what it’s about. Just remember the world does not revolve around the United States and so every story will not have an American slant. Who knows, you might like it.
     
  15. Dec 25, 2005 #35 of 137
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    Why don't you let the viewing audience decide that?
     
  16. Dec 25, 2005 #36 of 137
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    D* owns Sky News. I can't see why they would donate ad revenue to the BBC when they'll own the ad revenue if the bring us Sky News. Maybe they'll give us both. ????
     
  17. Dec 25, 2005 #37 of 137
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    Actaully they have a common parent Newscorp. Actaully Newscorp only owns part of Fox which in turn owns poart of DirecTV. But yeah Sky News and BBC would both be nice.
     
  18. Dec 25, 2005 #38 of 137
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    You know what mate not everyone is anti American outside the US. There are actually a lot of people here who support your current foreign policy including the British government... last time I checked our troops were still in Iraq too.

    Not quite sure where you have got the this idea of a government run anti american propoganda machine from. :(

    And as a digitalspy.co.uk user I hold no anti US sentiment and regularly tune to Fox News to keep up with your big news events so perhaps another misconception there.
     
  19. Dec 26, 2005 #39 of 137
    delphi96

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    But if you watch FOX News, or any American news service, there isn't any unusual concentration or focus on all things British. BBC news services are obsessed with all things American, including domestic matters, in a way that is preachy, judgemental, and scolding, which is pretty bizarre and essentially none of their business.

    Their news web site is disgusting in the way it negatively portrays America. When you read their Have Your Say section it is usually littered with questions for topics that will inevitably turn into another bash America session. Is this done on purpose? I think so. That is my opinion and that is the opinion of millions of other people. Their political views and agenda are easy to see in what is chosen to be covered, how it is covered, and how often.

    It is no coincidence that they have been accused and investigated probably more than any news organization for bias.

    Other than that, and besides the fact that they are state subsidized, they are a fine institutuion. <img>
     
  20. Dec 26, 2005 #40 of 137
    delphi96

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    I never said "everyone outside America is anti-American. That's not a reasonable conclusion you can make from what i have stated thus far. I also never suggested anything having to do with a British government sponsored anti-American propaganda machine.

    That said, there has always been a certain and significant level of anti-Americanism in Europe, especially after WWII and the rise to our superpower status. Much of it I'm sure is jealousy, especially coming from certain French circles, especially their so-called elites and politicians, and I'm sure much of it is simply a case of tall poppy syndrome. Oh, and we can't forget the fundamental political and social differences between America and Europe. That certainly factors in.

    The Iraq war was just a convenient excuse to stoke up and express that anti-Americanism and today it is the worse it has ever been.

    I also never accused you specifically of being anti-American coming from digitalspy.co.uk. In my opinion that lousy forum is run by some very nasty and intolerant people. It is well known over there that if you have any views socially and politically that are even slightly to the right of their left, and if you go against the consensus, no matter how nicely, you will eventually be banned. It is so comical in its frequency and obviousness. That's not what a forum is supposed to be; what they have is a private club that strictly controls what gets said well beyond reasonable and expected forum etiquette. Their censoring and propaganda endorsing would have made Geobbels proud.

    There are also a lot of America bashing threads over there; a lot. It is amusing and ironic to see considering the amount of coverage that site does on American media issues and the many people there that view so many American shows and love to talk about them, and anything else American. Very bizarre.
     
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