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Best restart procedure following power loss?

Discussion in 'DIRECTV HD DVR/Receiver Discussion' started by TMan, Dec 19, 2012.

  1. TMan

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    I have not lost power since my equipment was installed. My power is reliable, but there is an official blizzard forecast tonight.

    I have my SWiM power inserter, wired DECA, cable modem, and router on a small UPS. The HR34 is on its own UPS as well. No UPS power for the C31s.

    In the event that we lose power beyond the few minutes' duration these devices will provide, is there a preferred procedure for restarting everything?

    Maybe the power inserter first, and after a few minutes, the HR34?

    Any other details relating to powering things up & down? I really wish there was a way to gracefully shut off the DVR; simply pulling the power cord if you want to relocate the box, rearrange cables, etc. just seems so abrupt.
     
  2. RAD

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    I'd do the cable modem first, then your router, then the PI then the DECA, the HR34 and then the C31's. I say the network hardware first so it's up and running so it can give out an IP address for your local network when the HR34 comes up.
     
  3. dielray

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    The following is as graceful of a shut down as you can get:
    Press Menu
    Select Settings & Help
    Select Settings
    Select Reset
    Select Restart Receiver
    Wait for it to turn off and then pull the plug.
     
  4. TMan

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    Ah, like catching a rebooting PC as it starts the BIOS but hasn't started booting Windows yet.
     
  5. CCarncross

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    Exactly.....that is always the best way to cleanly shutdown the dvr. For a simple reboot, just skip the pull the plug part. IMO, this method should always be used unless the unit is unresponsive to remote commands.
     
  6. Richierich

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    I would also add an APC UPS Backup System as since I have done it I have had Zero Problems with Rebooting Problems or Issues and I have No Visible Artifacts on the Screen!!! :)
     
  7. wahooq

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    All my stuff always comes back on by itself
     
  8. TMan

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    I do have an APC UPS on the HR34.

    Well, the satellite has already gone out, citing lack of signal. Fortunately, it came back when I gently brushed the snow off the dish. Glad I made sure it they mounted it where I could do so.

    Maybe I need to restart via menu, and then pull the plug when it starts the reboot, and finally install the AM21 I got last week.
     
  9. wahooq

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    AM21 wont help...you need an independant OTA feed
     
  10. NR4P

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    The shutdown is more critical. You don't want to lose power during a write cycle on the DVR. So the menu/reset is best and as it powers down, pull the plug before reboot. L:ike dielray wrote.

    Of course if its random you don't know its coming only a UPS can help that.

    For start ups, I never worry about it. Where I live we have lots of brief power failures during summertime and all my modems and routers and receivers come back fine in any order. Just be patient and let everything settle down.
     
  11. TMan

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    I have an antenna connection ready for it, split two ways: one to my old TiVo right next to the HR34, and the other was formerly connected to the television's own tuner. I'll steal the latter for the AM21.
     
  12. SomeRandomIdiot

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    People need to look at the electrical output of an APC on a scope and then pray D* has some great AC filtering on their units.
     
  13. wahooq

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    If your on a 771 AM21 wont help.....just sayin
     
  14. TMan

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    Indeed, on the satellite channels. I just wanted to have redundant access to my locals during this and other storms.

    The AM21 is up and running now.
     
  15. TMan

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    Please elaborate. I take it you're not a fan of their electrical output characteristics? People use these with computers regularly...
     
  16. wahooq

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    No .....SFSS shows up on the locals through my AM21 ...i asked on here once if that was normal and VOS said it would for some reason beyond my comprehension
     
  17. SomeRandomIdiot

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    Yes, people use them on computer regularly. Have you looked at the size of the Power Supplies in computers and the AC Filters/Transformers vs what is in a D* IRD? If you think Noise and Square Waves are good for a great picture, then APC UPS units are for you.

    In all fairness, I also have APC UPS units on all my electronics. But I also have a $2k power filter system between it and the electronics (including computers).
     
  18. sweep49

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    Don't understand that. When I get SFSS due to weather and tune to OTA via AM21, it works as expected. It can be a pain to get the channel change enacted with 771 on screen, but I have ota channels on the quick guide (up arrow) and get to them with that.
     
  19. TMan

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    I noticed that the installer plugged the power inserter into the "surge protection only" side of my UPS instead of the battery and surge side.

    Will I make everything angry if I unplug the PI for a few seconds to move it, or must all the DirecTV stuff be restarted, too?
     
  20. Laxguy

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    Be sure you're not recording anything.... and by the time you get a definitive answer, you could have done it, and known first hand.....
     

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