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Beta and Laserdisc

Discussion in 'The Movies' started by Steve Mehs, May 10, 2002.

  1. Steve Mehs

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    Anyone have a beta or laserdisc player? How often do you use it? These 2 formats have interestered me for sometime now. I was thinking about get a LD player but theres not much LD content anymore.
     
  2. Chris Blount

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    I still have both and use them. I have about 70 laserdiscs (used to have over 200 but sold them on EBay).

    LD is all but dead but the discs can still be purchased on EBay.
     
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  3. spanishannouncetable

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    I still have about 200 LD's, many of them titles that are unavailable on DVD, like -

    Back to the Future
    Back to the Future Part II
    Dick Tracy
    The Lion King
    Raiders of the Lost Ark
    Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom
    Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade
    Memoirs of an Invisible Man
    Once Upon a Time in the West
    Ragtime
    Star Wars (original UN-enhanced version :D )
    The Empire Strikes Back (ditto)
    Return of the Jedi (ditto again)
    Urban Cowboy
    Who Framed Roger Rabbit (unedited upskirt frames intact :lol: )
     
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  4. gcutler

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    Except for the titles that are not on DVD, is there any benefit to the LD? I remember my friend who had one, he would have to get up and flip the LD 1/2 way thru the movie and such.

    Or is it like my VHS collection, as the important titles are available on DVD, the DVD gets bought the VHS gets given away or sold, etc and eventually the VHS collection will be gone?
     
  5. Kevin

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    My school still uses laserdiscs, especially for Physics videos. The size of them is ridiculous, no wonder they went out of style so quickly. I remember back in middle school when I first saw a laserdisc in class, my teacher said, "Look kids, this is the FUTURE of video." I can't help but look back and laugh at him.
     
  6. James_F

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    Most newer LD players are able to play both sides of the disc without flipping it over. The only issue is that the laser has to travel back from the outer edge with can take a few seconds. What you end up with is a blue screen and then I plays again. I enjoy my laserdisc (including the Star Wars Special Edition) collection from time to time, but I have been using the DVD player most often. Unless there is a movie that you have to get on LD only, don't bother. There isn't any picture improvement and the sounds aren't that good. My player supports Dolby AC-3, but most laserdiscs don't, so you end up with stereo sound.

    But as a conversation piece, it is great.
     
  7. Richard King

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    I have what was a very nice Toshiba Cinema Series laser disc player that has been in for repair 3 times without success. I finally gave up on ever getting it fixed and it now sits boxed up in the corner in a spare room. It's really a shame, but I am glad I didn't get a few hundred discs before it died. While I only have a few discs, some of which have been replaced by DVD, there is one that I would like to get on DVD and have had no luck in finding. This is the "The Way We Walk" live album by Genesis. I haven't been able to find this on DVD yet, and I suspect it may never be available. The album and Laser Disc were produced by a friend of mine when he was the soundman for Genesis and Phil Collins and so, it would be nice to have a copy that I could watch since my Toshiba kicked the bucket.
     
  8. Steve Mehs

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    Kevin, my school also has an LD player, 2 infact, both are the same model made by Sharp. Most of the LDs we have at school are interactive science discs but we do have the B&W verson of 'Les Miserables' (sp). The PQ is pretty decent using composite video.
     
  9. Kevin

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    My physics room has surround sound with the Laserdiscs. It sounds decent to me.
     
  10. gcutler

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    Don't give up hope. I had an old VHS copy of a Pat Benatar Concert that had been on HBO (jeeze I remember I took my SATs the same day it was on) 1982-3??? I never expected it to be on DVD, but that Concert was releases by Rhino DVD around a year ago. It may take a while, and may only be available for a few months but I'm sure just about everything will be released eventually. The only problem might be Region. I don't know if LD did Regional encoding, but someone might say Well 80% of those who bouught it before were in the UK, so lets just make a Region 2 of it :(
     
  11. MarkA

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    "I remember back in middle school when I first saw a laserdisc in class, my teacher said, "Look kids, this is the FUTURE of video." I can't help but look back and laugh at him."

    He was absolutely correct. LaserDisc is the mommy of DVD. Had it not been for LaserDisc (and the market it created), we'd all be watching pan-and-scan VHS:(
     
  12. Dude111

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    Ok you have peaked my interest.....


    I cannot find these movies ON VHS in thier regular UN-ENHANCED FORM (Parts 2 and 3) but it looks like you have ALL 3 (Or did) .. By you saying "Un-enhanced" did you mean NOT DIGITALLY MASTERED??

    I am a full blown PURIST and i dont like it when they mess with movies by DIGITALLY MASTERING them.... They look and sound like crap compared to the originals in my opinion!!

    ARE THE LASERDISC COPIES OF THESE MOVIES IN ANALOGUE AND ARE THEY UNDIGITALLY ALTERED?? (I wanna make it clear what im curious about/looking for)

    I have Star Wars Part 1 (ORIGINAL 1977 (20th century FOX release)) on VHS i got recently and it IS NOT DIGITALLY MASTERED!! (Its georgeous)

    The other 2 on VHS are :( (I just saw Part 2 and 3 (CBS/FOX release) today @ a thrift store.. BOTH DIGITALLY MASTERED)


    Does anyone know if the BETA versions of these movies are also not digitally altered?? (Parts 2 and 3)


    Thanx
     
  13. TheRatPatrol

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    Another issue is finding a TV or AVR that has S-Video inputs.
     
  14. machavez00

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    As Danny Vermin would say "I hooked my Laser Disc player up to my HDTV once, ONCE!"
     
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    Reading this thread is like reading a script from Antiques Roadshow.
     
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  16. Church AV Guy

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    Actually, LaserVision had a lifespan of over 20 years. You could hardly say that they went out of style quickly.
     
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  17. Dude111

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    Im just curious if movies on Laserdisc and BETA were compromised digitally or if they just did a standard transfer using the analogue masters...... (Especially BETA seeing that is not digital at all)
     
  18. spartanstew

    spartanstew Dry as a bone

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    Especially when it's an 11 year old thread.
     
  19. sigma1914

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    Are you going to really buy 20+ year old technology that's way inferior?
     
  20. spanishannouncetable

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    The Laserdiscs I have are the original CLV LD releases before any redone or "enhanced" special effects were added.

    Laserdiscs are, by their very nature, digital - UNCOMPRESSED digital. In 1992 these were state-of-the-art for picture and sound quality for home theatre, which means -

    > 4x3 letterbox, 525 lines of resolution, 2.35:1 AR
    > original Dolby Pro-Logic surround
    > Nice, big gatefold double LD jackets with lots of stills and text

    And yes, I still have them :D

    Links to cover art for the LD's I have -

    http://www.gngltd.com/Gallery/Auctions/StarwarsLDfront.jpg

    http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/414FSBYW98L._SL500_AA300_.jpg

    http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/31jnZJIgrmL.jpg
     
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