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Big Brother 15

Discussion in 'TV Show Talk' started by SPACEMAKER, Jun 20, 2013.

  1. Aug 10, 2013 #61 of 228
    Henry

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    I agree, but with a little reservation.

    [Sorry for being cryptic in what follows, but I don't want to reveal your Spoiler.]

    Our "spoiler target" was the first one to attempt a game-changing move last week. The rest of the lemmings (including Helen) just followed the leader. In the end, our target's vote had to follow the rest of the house, but not before risking nomination this week for speaking out of conviction. It might have worked had the plot not been leaked.

    All-in-all it was a decent game play. Sorry to see that it's going to backfire.
     
  2. Aug 13, 2013 #62 of 228
    SPACEMAKER

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    Haha!

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  3. Aug 13, 2013 #63 of 228
    Henry

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    I'd love to be that fly on the wall when Amanda learns the truth.
     
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  4. Aug 13, 2013 #64 of 228
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    Ya wish they carried it here but they don't so I watch online. THere format is way better the viewers vote people off and the house guests can't talk about nominations. This week is going to be a snore on the US one.
    We all know Andy isn't going to change the noms. Heard rumors even production is hard pressed to find stuff to fill this weeks show.
     
  5. Aug 13, 2013 #65 of 228
    Henry

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    Yeah, Andy just doesn't seem to have the knack for intrigue that others do. Just the same, this will get us one week closer to the finale. And hopefully, Amanda will have gone to the jury house long before then.

    TheRatPatrol was kind enough to send me a link in a PM. Morty'stv also carries the BBGB and BBAU versions. If only I could keep track of so many names and events. I do like the twist in this year's BBGB season, though.
     
  6. Aug 13, 2013 #66 of 228
    Henry

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    Went downstairs to the living room ... wife was watching BBAD that I had recorded for her ... Amanda was on screen so I left ... came back a few minutes later ... Amanda was on the screen again ... left ... came back ... same thing. :bang
     
  7. Aug 14, 2013 #67 of 228
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    I would not mind seeing Amanda win the whole thing. She is playing a good game and if we find out she is just playing macrae then even better. Although I do not always agree with the way she handles things with some of the houseguests in the end this is just a game not a popularity contest.

    My preference for this week would be to back-door Helen.
     
  8. Aug 14, 2013 #68 of 228
    thxultra

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    THe UK BB has been great this season. Great cast of house guests. There "tasks" are great also. Watched a bit of the AU one also and it looks great also but can't handle all 3 :) Wish the AU one was on a different time of year so I could watch. BBUK ends next monday but then they have a celeb one starting... Also hoping to see Amanda march out the door. Can't handle her she is such a cry baby. Don't know how McCrae tolerates her. She goes off the deep end all the time. Helen is totally running the house and no one even notices that is in the house. As much as I think she is a snake she has played the best game by far.
     
  9. Aug 14, 2013 #69 of 228
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    Well when BBUK ends pick up on BBAU. ;)
     
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  10. Aug 14, 2013 #70 of 228
    Henry

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    I respect your opinion.

    My problem with Amanda is the same as with many other houseguests over the years; Soon after arriving, the strategy starts to reveal the real person. I can't imagine going through life conniving and manipulating people. The prize money is good, but is it worth the belittling of others that the "game" demands? Amanda seems to revel in keeping her hands clean while using friends and foes alike to further her selfish goals.

    As for Helen, I used to hold her in high regard, but I now see the company she keeps and have no use for her.

    At this point it doesn't matter to me who wins as long as it's not Amanda or McRae, or Helen for that matter.

    And that is my opinion.
     
  11. Aug 14, 2013 #71 of 228
    thxultra

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    Amanda is a big baby (can't stand her drama when she is on the block get over yourself) I think that is why I want to see her go. Helen has really been playing a dirty game getting others to do her bidding... It was her big plan to back door Judd too. Really hate most of the house this year. Would like CBS to take the prize money and burn it rather then give it to these people.
     
  12. Aug 14, 2013 #72 of 228
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    Completely understand where you are coming from but he game at its most fundamental level rewards players that can deceive and manipulate. Although there are elements of normal society at play here most if not all of that has to be checked at the door. No average person playing by all of societies rules could ever win the game.

    Howard was probably the single most shining example ever of someone completely conflicted while playing the game. He was being torn apart by having to bury who he really is in order to have a shot at the prize. To be a fan of the "game" requires the viewer to disconnect themselves a bit from their own societal tendencies and beliefs in order to appreciate those that are masters of it. Does this make anyone a bad person? Not in my book. I chalk it up to merely someone that is really good at playing a game.

    Do I think everything Amanda is doing in the house is noble? No, but who cares? It's a game on TV. Do I think she treats everyone in her real life outside the game exactly as she does inside the BB house? I highly doubt it but again who cares!? I am not planning on calling her after the season ends just like I did not bother to invite Dick Donato or Will Kirby out for beers after their seasons ended either. I realize that Amanda's breakdowns and very poor treatment of some people makes her look weak and does not contribute anything positive to her gameplay but if she wins in spite of that behavior, well then more power to her.

    If we are going to judge those in the house by their actions then there is far more evidence that Aaryn has the most conniving and deceptive personality of all. The racial comments and attacks followed by a complete turnaround to portray a sweet and kind southern girl are far more disturbing to me. This is someone clearly used to getting what she wants and uses her carefully manicured external appearance to manipulate everyone around her. Amanda has been a pretty straight shooter. She tells it like it is, for good or bad. Aaryn on the hand has demonstrated that she can bury her true feelings nearly completely and that takes years of practice.
     
  13. Aug 14, 2013 #73 of 228
    Henry

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    In my mind, Aaryn is a stupid, spoiled girl who doesn't have the social skills to attend a birthday party for a 5-year-old. She doesn't know when to speak or when to shut up. Without adult supervision, she's dangerous to all sensibilities.

    I think Helen is figuring her out, though. And she's probably already given that tidbit to Her Majesty Amanda I.

    Amanda differs from Aaryn, IMO, in that she enjoys stepping (or I should say, causing others to step) on others in the house. There is a meanness about her that render moot any redeeming attributes she might have.

    Manipulations don't always have to include her methods. But above all, she's arrogant and walks about with a sense of entitlement that invites the dislike of a lot of outsiders - hence two back-to-back nominations. It's one thing to play, it's another to do so in a bullying manner and only for her selfish gain. If McCrae thinks she's going to marry him for real on the outside, then he deserves to deliver pizzas for the rest of his life.

    Previous seasons of BB have had their gameplay moments, but I can't remember when one player wanted to truly hurt another ... ok, Natalie (BB11) doesn't count. :grin:
     
  14. Aug 16, 2013 #74 of 228
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    Should be Helen or Spencer this week but it also might not matter since they have a good chance to turn right around and come back in.
     
  15. Aug 16, 2013 #75 of 228
    Henry

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    Doesn't matter which one leaves. They're both grist to the mill. Besides, Helen missed her chance ... paying for it seems somehow right.

    Nice how Amanda took her Goodbye message as an opportunity to gloat about an evictee going to the Jury House. Real smart, Amanda ... and thanks.
     
  16. Aug 16, 2013 #76 of 228
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    I would prefer Helen going out next but then she might just go right back in so a wasted week. I would rather have them send someone to the jury house and then have non-jury players get a chance to come back. Now that would be very cool and would re-introduce the strong players that got booted early on this year. Having Candice, Judd or Jessie come back in is boring. Having Jeremy, Nick, David or Kaitlin back would be awesome!

    Better yet, bring all four of those players back and have a week of back to back HOH competitions and evictions. :)
     
  17. Aug 16, 2013 #77 of 228
    Henry

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    Of course, that depends on what side of the house you're on. To me, a Howard - unleashed with no regard for anything other than teaching these kids some manners - would be a thing of beauty to watch.
     
  18. Aug 16, 2013 #78 of 228
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    I would be surprised if Aaryn doesn't go after Helen after Jessie totally laid out Helens game plan. As much as I hate Aaryn have to give her credit on her game. She is good at winning hoh challanges. She has already won 4. Hoping Judd gets back in the house and knocks some of these other jokers out. Would be a great twist if they did a flip and switched the jury people into the house and the house guests to the jury :) Really need to stir things up on that show it has gotten stale. Same competitions no good twists. They need to take some notes from the UK BB because thers has been one twist after another... Just amazing.
     
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  19. Aug 17, 2013 #79 of 228
    Henry

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    +1
     
  20. Aug 17, 2013 #80 of 228
    Henry

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    Helen and Elissa are up.
     
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