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Bigger dish or inline amp?

Discussion in 'DIRECTV General Discussion' started by marklar, Jul 1, 2010.

  1. Jul 1, 2010 #1 of 17
    marklar

    marklar New Member

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    Is it possible to use a bigger dish or inline amplifier to boost signal when there is bad weather? This year we have had alot of rain and its almost like there's a funny filter on my DVR, I swear every time there's a good joke the signal goes out just long enough to block the punch line. Its getting really irritating and there's no way I'm switching to cable and their crap DVR with no features I wouldn't mind having a bigger dish if it means less signal drop.
     
  2. Jul 1, 2010 #2 of 17
    Davenlr

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    Your signal drops are about the same as mine during bad weather, just on the edge.
    In our cases, an Alaska/Hawaii 1.2M dish would probably help with the minor outages, although not the ones that last 5 or 10 minutes. Problem is, they cost about $350.
     
  3. Jul 1, 2010 #3 of 17
    veryoldschool

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    Mother nature will overpower anything, "but" you can pick up a couple of dB with the 1.2 meter dish.
    If you don't have a SWiM system now, then I'd upgrade to it first, because as the signals drop, it will kick in 15 dB of gain.
     
  4. Jul 1, 2010 #4 of 17
    marklar

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    I just looked and this is the dish I got but I don't have that power inserter, all 4 lines go directly from the dish to my two DVRs 2 lines for each DVR.

    [​IMG]
     
  5. Jul 1, 2010 #5 of 17
    bobnielsen

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    In that case, you don't have that dish but the non-SWM model.
     
  6. Jul 1, 2010 #6 of 17
    marklar

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    Should I call directv and ask them for it or is it something I will have to get on my own?
     
  7. Jul 1, 2010 #7 of 17
    veryoldschool

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    More than likely this would be a DIY upgrade.
     
  8. Jul 1, 2010 #8 of 17
    marklar

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    After looking at the installation videos this looks a bit confusing with all the splitters and multiplexers and alignment tools needed.
     
  9. Jul 1, 2010 #9 of 17
    litzdog911

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    Maybe your dish alignment just needs some tweaking. That might be something you can handle yourself.


    Please post back with your signal readings for each satellite's transponders (and both tuners if applicable). You'll find these readings under "Menu" -> "Setup" -> "System Setup" -> Satellite -> "View Signal Strength". Note the "+" and "-" symbols next to the "Satellite" and "Tuner" entries where you can toggle the readings between the various satellites and both DVR tuners.

    Fill in your readings for each satellite and tuner using these examples. A properly aligned dish will show 80-90s on most of the relevant transponders (although some will be low or zero):


    Satellite transponders (32 total at 101º)
    [Most of your standard definition channels are beamed from 101ºW]
    1-8 # # # # # # # #
    9-16 # # # # # # # #
    17-24 # # # # # # # #
    25-32 # # # # # # # #

    Satellite transponders (3 total at 110º)
    [No channels are currently beamed from this satellite]
    1-8 NA NA NA NA NA NA NA #
    9-16 NA # NA # NA NA NA NA

    Satellite transponders (11 total at 119º)
    [Local SD channels for some cities, Spanish package]
    17-24 NA NA NA NA NA # # #
    25-32 # # # # # # # #

    Satellite transponders (16 total at 99º(s)) [or 99º(b)]
    [Local HD channels for some cities]
    1-8 # # # # # # NA NA
    9-16 NA NA NA NA NA NA # #
    17-24 # # # # # # # #
    [Note: these can be very slow to appear]

    Satellite transponders (14 total at 99º(c)) [or 99º(a)]
    [National HD channels]
    1-8 # # # # # # # #
    9-16 # # # # # # NA NA
    [Note, these can be very slow to appear]

    Satellite transponders (16 total at 103º(s)) [or 103º(a)]
    [Local HD channels for some cities]
    1-8 # # # # # # NA NA
    9-16 NA NA NA NA NA NA # #
    17-24 # # # # # # # #
    [Note, these can be very slow to appear]

    Satellite transponders (16 total at 103º(ca))
    [National HD channels beamed from D12 satellite]
    1-8 NA NA NA NA NA NA NA NA
    9-16 # # # # # # # #
    17-24 # # # # # # # #

    Satellite transponders (14 total at 103º(cb)) [or 103º(b)]
    [National HD channels beamed from D10 satellite]
    1-8 # # # # # # # #
    9-16 # # # # # # NA NA
    17-24 NA NA NA NA NA NA NA NA

    Satellite transponders (9 total at SWM)
    [You'll only see this if you have a Single Wire Multiswitch (SWM) dish]
    1-8 # # # # # # # #
    9-16 # NA NA NA NA NA NA NA
     
  10. marklar

    marklar New Member

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    Satellite transponders (32 total at 101º)
    [Most of your standard definition channels are beamed from 101ºW]
    1-8 95 91 95 0 93 98 91 97
    9-16 92 91 89 100 90 98 91 99
    17-24 95 0 91 100 89 99 95 100
    25-32 96 70 96 0 98 100 96 100

    Satellite transponders (3 total at 110º)
    [No channels are currently beamed from this satellite]
    1-8 NA NA NA NA NA NA NA 90
    9-16 NA 96 NA 91 NA NA NA NA

    Satellite transponders (11 total at 119º)
    [Local SD channels for some cities, Spanish package]
    17-24 NA NA NA NA NA 97 90 99
    25-32 79 98 98 96 97 99 82 99

    Satellite transponders (16 total at 99º(s)) [or 99º(b)]
    [Local HD channels for some cities]
    1-8 0 0 12 0 18 0 NA NA
    9-16 NA NA NA NA NA NA 0 0
    17-24 87 0 0 0 72 77 0 0
    [Note: these can be very slow to appear]

    Satellite transponders (14 total at 99º(c)) [or 99º(a)]
    [National HD channels]
    1-8 92 89 94 88 92 88 93 86
    9-16 91 86 95 88 95 91 NA NA
    [Note, these can be very slow to appear]

    Satellite transponders (16 total at 103º(s)) [or 103º(a)]
    [Local HD channels for some cities]
    1-8 0 0 0 0 0 0 NA NA
    9-16 NA NA NA NA NA NA 95 40
    17-24 36 50 74 60 97 94 88 #18 is 10 on tuner 2
    [Note, these can be very slow to appear]

    Satellite transponders (16 total at 103º(ca))
    [National HD channels beamed from D12 satellite]
    1-8 NA NA NA NA NA NA NA NA
    9-16 95 95 92 91 94 91 89 88
    17-24 89 89 91 86 91 90 89 89 **fluctuate alot between 70-90

    Satellite transponders (14 total at 103º(cb)) [or 103º(b)]
    [National HD channels beamed from D10 satellite]
    1-8 85 93 91 87 9283 88 74
    9-16 89 71 86 83 85 85 NA NA
    17-24 NA NA NA NA NA NA NA NA
     
  11. azarby

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    Those numbers look fine. No dish alignment needed. Unless they are consistenly in the 60s or lower DTV won't send anyone out to check them.
     
  12. Dave DFW

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    Thanks VOS, didn't know about the 15dB gain.
     
  13. veryoldschool

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    "Remember" though if the signal doesn't get to the LNB, then adding gain after it isn't going to do anything.
    This should help though when the signal is weak and it's the receiver that is losing signal [first].
     
  14. David MacLeod

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    don't even touch the dish and get an swm-8 of ebay .
     
  15. ffemtreed

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    I support this 100%! Its exactly what I did.

    PS -- don't forget to get the power inserter and splitter as well.
     
  16. marklar

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    I have an HR20-700 and a HR10-200 will the HR10 work with this? Ill have to still use the dual line with it correct?
     
  17. bwaldron

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    Yes, the HR10-250 can be used w/ the SWM unit, dual lines connected to the legacy ports.
     

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