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Discussion in 'Tech Talk - Gadgets, Gizmos and Technology' started by RWebb71980, Apr 1, 2003.

  1. Apr 1, 2003 #1 of 28
    RWebb71980

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    Hey,

    I just bought a Sony DVD-+RW drive and was wondering if any of you have had good or bad experiences with generic DVD-R media.

    I have found 100 unbranded DVD-R media in a spindle for $150, which is a much better buy that CompUSA. However, I am aprehensive about buying unbranded media. I had a friend who bought 100 for $100 a few months ago, and made at least 4 coasters for every good DVD. Any thoughts?

    Thanks,
    Rob

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  2. Apr 1, 2003 #2 of 28
    Neil Derryberry

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    I've never tried the generics... check ebay for name brand deals from TDK, those work well.
     
  3. Apr 1, 2003 #3 of 28
    gcutler

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    unbranded DVD-R or +R can be widely varied in quality and a total waste of money. The manufacturing process can vary and makes a big difference in quality.

    But you may be able to differnetiate one spindle of generics from another.

    Check out http://www.dvdrhelp.com/ they will probably be able to lead you to the better generics and help you differentiate.

    I'm paying about $2.50 per disc on a branded TDK 15 DVD spindle but the success rate is much much better than generics. TDK manufactured generics would be best but it is hard to find those without seeing them in person.
     
  4. Apr 1, 2003 #4 of 28
    James_F

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    I buy the cheapest DVD disks I can at Fry's Electronics. Never had a problem. I've had more problem with TDK than these Taiwan specials.
     
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    James_F

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    How do you know they aren't made by the same company as my Taiwan specials? You can't, that is why I wouldn't let price dictate whether they work or not. If TDK works, use it, but don't eliminate cheaper brands just because they are cheaper.
     
  7. Apr 1, 2003 #7 of 28
    gcutler

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    Goto dvdrtalk.com and you'll see post after post of those who have been bitten by the non-name brands. The problem with the no name brands is that even if you buy from the same vendor you can end up with a different manufacturer each time (as they just list generic 100 spindle), and that is where the problem is, you never know what you are getting. At least with a name brand you have a better chance of getting the same quality the next time.

    And DVDs are a much different animal than CDs, as not every DVD player will play every DVD blank and finding the right match of brand to play in your DVD players is important.
     
  8. Apr 1, 2003 #8 of 28
    gcutler

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    No you can...There is a tool you can download called DVDInfo or ADVDInfo, every manufacturer will brand their name into the header of the blank DVD. This is Datasafe spindle, but is actually a generic created by TDK (2x) The only problem is that you have to open the package and put the media in the dvd drive to get this far and not every spindle by these guys are from TDK, you could end up with a different manufacturer next time.

    Complete Media Code (DVDInfo/ADVDInfo):
    00 42 00 00 01 40 C1 FD 9E D8 50 00 02 98 0C 13 .B...@....P.....
    76 78 80 00 03 54 44 4B 47 30 32 00 04 30 30 30 VX...TDKG02..000
    30 30 30 00 05 88 80 00 00 00 01 00 00 00 00 00 000.............
     
  9. Apr 1, 2003 #9 of 28
    James_F

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    I disagree. I've never had one of my cheap less than $1 DVDs ever fail. Going to a forum proves nothing since people get so emotional over this kind of stuff.
     
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    Right but as you said you can't tell until you buy it. My point is that the cheap brands could be the same at a TDK and an Apple could be a Sony for one and a Maxell for the other.
     
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    But the cheap brands can be the real junk like KHypermedia, chances are the Apple will not be the junk. I agree that if you find a generic brand that works for you, go for it, but your next purchase is always a gamble, where the Apple next purchase is a gamble but chances are not junk.
     
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    Sorry, but I'd rather listen to 100 peoples at DVDRHELP than your opinion as your opinion can be just as emotional as theirs.
     
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    Another thing to consider is different drives will handle different media differently (depending on firmware version of drive).

    If RWEBB just bought a Sony DVD-+RW (specific about model # is important) he might want to see at DVDrHELP.com to see which media has been polled successful consistantly with that drive and go with the media (generic or branded) and works with the DVD Player).
     
  14. James_F

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    I disagree and think you are wasting your money.
     
  15. hojni

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    Last year, I used CompUSA generics without a problem. When I got my CD/DVD printer last fall, I switched to Verbatim inkjet printable DVD-R's. More recently, I started using Pioneer 4x printable DVD-Rs (50 for $178 at tapeandmedia.com) because you can print all the way to the center hole. I can't recall ever having a coaster in either by Panny DMR-E20, Panny DMR-HS2, Pioneer A03, or the Pioneer A05.

    However, I recently dug up some of my left-over CompUSA DVD-R's and got 4 out of 5 coasters on both the HS2 and the A05. I'm not sure if I coincidently hit a new lot or if something happened to the dye layer over the last 6 months, but I threw out the remaining 20.

    I too have seen too many problems on the various DVD boards talking about this or that generic media problem. I even tried some Meritline generics and, in the same order, received two completely different batches of disks. I am sticking with namebrands from now on.
     
  16. James_F

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    This is all I have to say to that.
     

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    Nice DVD.
     
  18. gcutler

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    James, You know I have no counter when you play "The Bellybutton card" :p
     
  19. RWebb71980

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    Thanks for all the help. I am not really sure what to do now, but at least I have some more information!!

    Thanks,
    Rob
     
  20. Martyva

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    Try a Disk, but be aware that there seems to be a work in progress, here. You might try Promaster at your local camera store in both + and - at around $3 with standard jewel case:)
     

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