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Breaking News: Senate votes to delay DTV transition four months

Discussion in 'Local Reception' started by JDubbs413, Jan 26, 2009.

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  1. James Long

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    It is a shame that the people wanting this change couldn't show up for the debate.
    Rep. Boucher is a one man show ... and even he is apologetic for asking for the change.
     
  2. James Long

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    A really loud NAY! :D
     
  3. Steve615

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    WTVF in Nashville has been running some pretty lengthy messages at the conclusion of their newscasts for the last few days.
    They are letting people know in this area that they will shut the analog signal down on Feb. 17.
    They are also advising folks with the digital to analog boxes to do another scan on Feb. 18 for the digital channel.
     
  4. samhevener

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    If as some of you say, any station that wants can shut down on Feb 17th, what is the point of the bill. The bill is to keep the analog stations on the air. I would assume if the bill allowed any station shut on Feb 17th, 99% would do so. :confused:
     
  5. Pepster

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    I wonder if stations still play the national anthem when signing off.
     
  6. neljtorres

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    Almost all the channels in Puerto Rico are going to shut down their analog signal on Febraury 18, 2009.


    There are a couple of stations that are going to keep their analog like: WORO, WECN and WSTE:lol:
     
  7. hdtvfan0001

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    This is more of a political issue than a logistics one, and I won't go there, as political discussions are not allowed.

    Stations have been preparing for Feb 17, 2009 now for years, and likely 95% of them are prepared for the conversion to all-digital on that date.

    CNN reported just yesterday (again) that this the recent "rush" to delay is primarily a result of "new management" in Washington DC and concerns over some folks being left out in the cold.

    After over 5 years of promoting the Dickens out of this change-over...and hundreds of millions in cost to do so....there really is no major reason for it to be delayed, however, apparently a vocal small audience has raised enough attention in the issue in the 11th hour to spark a debate on the topic.
     
  8. HIPAR

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    It's to keep analog lit up in the major population centers. You can read into that what you wish.

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  9. Stuart Sweet

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    I'm not sure it's about major population centers; if any station were to take advantage of the delay, I'd expect it would be a fringe market where cable penetration is low. In larger areas, as well as remote ones, cable and satellite penetration is higher. Those folks who are served well by OTA but who do not have enough population density to justify modern cable TV runs seem more likely to be OTA only.
     
  10. HDTVFreak07

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    For over a year now, when the power goes out, the generator only backs up the analog signal. I'm on digital only and when the power goes out, that means no CSI, LOST, Knight Rider, NCIS, or any public broadcast programming for me. I have made the transition long ago. It affects those who have set up for digital only. It's not fair to those who have made the transition and those that didn't just sat on their lazy butts procrastinating. Now that they've approved the 4 month delay, that means a lot of missed first runs for me. I hardly watch TV during the late spring through early fall so I do not watch much re-runs during that span. That is what is getting us who have made the move really antsy.
     
  11. turey22

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    When will congress VOTE!?!?!?!
     
  12. gregjones

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    The "optional" language shows how little congress understands the transitions. Many markets involve channel assignments (or neighboring channel assignments) changing hands. If one station opts to stay OTA, it could deny another station the ability to convert on the Feb 17 date.
     
  13. HIPAR

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    I live in a fringe area for broadcast TV and expect to lose reception in June so I have satellite. That works almost anywhere.

    I'm thinking the stations serving the fringe areas will be the most likely to exercise options to turn off analog because they don't have the viewership, measured in raw numbers, to justify those (now famous) costs of dual broadcast operations.

    I have no data to prove it but I'm thinking the over the air viewership, measured in raw numbers, is in the major population centers. I'd be surprised to see New York, Chicago, LA or Philadelphia go digital until the last second.

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  14. Stuart Sweet

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    On the other hand, speaking for the Los Angeles market, our cable and satellite penetration is so high that there's very little benefit to keeping analog alive. I guess we'll see which one of us is right on February 18...I hope we're both right and that analog broadcasting stops on schedule because the market chooses that it do so.
     
  15. HIPAR

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    That's possible but I suspect you still own at least one TV that can receive good old NTSC. :)

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    There is so much socioeconomic, sociopolitical, legal, business and technical interplay here. Mix in the emotion that has been aroused!

    It's kinda fun to prognosticate on this Matter.

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  18. HDTVFreak07

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    Well, yes I have a couple but that means I have to take one off the wall to add an antenna connection and another to mess around with but I can't DVR any of them. On one TV, closed captioning doesn't work for analog (I did mess with the settings and still to no avail). The whole point is, people have had more than a year to prepare for it. The government intervening is just making things worse and make people procrastinate further.

    If I go and mess around with my TV's to allow for antenna input, I will receive an EYESORE!!! Picture quality is terrible on HDTV for analogs!
     
  19. scooper

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    We told you that this bill was a bad idea. Because indeed - several stations ARE shutting down analog on or before Feb 17. And even if/when this bill gets signed, there is that good old permissive section 4 that says with adequate notification - stations can shutdown analog whenever they want - as long as they are all shutdown by June 12.

    This bill was written to PERMIT extension of analog - not REQUIRE extension of analog.

    As far as any particular station shutting down - it depends on their circumstances some can afford to keep it going longer (I've already been in touch with one engineer - corporate policy for them is to go until the bitter end). Others have already shutdown, or it is already in the works.
     
  20. scooper

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    I honestly think that the whole Raleigh Durham DMA could turn off analog right now and it would hardly be noticed. 25% DBS coverage (one of the highest in the country), cable available to most everyone (a few exceptions, but there is everywhere), and we were the birthplace of US HDTV with WRAL. You would have to have lived under a rock and not watched any TV for the last year to be unaware of the transition - and in that case - it still doesn't affect you.
     
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