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Brokeback causes problems for prison official

Discussion in 'The OT' started by missileman, Apr 9, 2006.

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  1. DonLandis

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    jonstad- I agreed with your whole post except for the last part- The part where you said that Hollyweird has only one agenda- to make money. They didn't get the nickname 'Hollyweird" for wanting to make money on every film. You do need to listen to the other parts of these social deviant movies where the directors and writers offer their comments. The facts are that these movies often are pushed through because of a social agenda first and when they happen to make a little money, knockoffs often follow. Named actors will often do the scripts based on the well recognized understanding that these types of scripts that mostly do not get funding will be a pathway to the Oscars. These actors are not stupid. Other actors who have reached this path (Oscars) already will take on the role because they also identify with the social movement. All this happens before the knockoffs start.
    I watch alot of movies of all types. Being in the production business, I find it a really good technical education on how these movies are made. I try to do the movie a couple of times so I can get the real motivations, trials and tribulations, of the producers writers and directors. Not always interested in the actors say since mostly it's the directors who really control what we see on the screen. Anyway, While I respect your opinion that Brokeback Mountain is not a subject of interest to you, I hope you appreciate where I'm coming from in trying to point out that money is only a fraction of the real motivation to make any movie. If you had said it was the only motivation of the passive investors, then I think I would have to agree.

    BTW- I watched Rosie Odonnell's latest documentary that is on HBO now. It is her seven day vacation party for Gays on a cruise ship. Again, how did a person's vacation video get on HBO? Answer- Her celebrity status but mostly, I'd bet, was the theme of the documentary. It's quality is as good as Michael Moore's stuff and it is the right theme so will it win an Oscar for best documentary of the year?
     
  2. Slamminc11

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    I'm not sure which Oscar telecast you watched, but the one I saw showed that Crash won the Oscar not Brokeback. Now if I remember correctly, Brokeback did win the Golden Globe.
     
  3. dlhuse

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    Don, I said nothing about doctors. I said "caused an abortion" that means fathered the fetus.

    ADULTERY - Voluntary sexual relations between a married person and another person who is not their married spouse. Since gay men cannot get married outside of Mass. they cannot commit adultry.



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  4. Geronimo

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    Apparently so. It often helps to read an entire post.
     
  5. Bogy

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    It is so interesting that straights are so certain that gays have made a choice to be gay, or lesbian. Not that they have any personal experience, but THEY can tell why someone is the way they are, because they aren't that way.

    My daughter tried very hard to be heterosexual. She has had boyfriends, one fairly longterm, and several other guys who wanted to be her boyfriend. She finally admitted to herself that it just didn't work. It wasn't who she was. She now has a relationship with another young woman, and is very happy. Now if self-righteous people who think they can make declarations about what other makes other people tick will butt out, she will do just fine.
     
  6. wisdom

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    Now if you would take this point and use it towards politics...
     
  7. Bogy

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    Yep, if politicians would just butt out and get out of my daughter's life, and the lives of others, then if she and her friend get to the point of wanting to get married I can perform the ceremony.
     
  8. wisdom

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    I guarantee you made that choice at some point, I don't know your history, perhaps you were molested. Perhaps you had gay parents (ha). I'm sure that if you looked closely at your past, you'd find that choice.

    Frankly, I wouldn't believe a damn thing CBS says, they have a bigger agenda than Fox News.

    I could care less whether or not you're gay. It's your choice, just don't expect to be treated like it is a race issue and you deserve special rights to be a pervert.
     
  9. wisdom

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    God must love that you use His name to marry what he considers an abomination. Marry any animals to people yet?

    Maybe Baal can be the best man.
     
  10. Bogy

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    I'm not gay, neither is my wife. My daughter was not molested. Her mother was raped several times growing up, and she ended up heterosexual. I have not yet married anyone who is homosexual. I cannot, since it is illegal. I have not performed any weddings for people and animals for the same reason. Since animals cannot currently enter into contracts, and are not likely to be able to do so anytime soon, I predict it will be a long time before such a marriage is legal.
    Two adults, however, are a different matter. If they are in a committed, loving relationship, I find nothing in the Bible to prohibit their asking God to bless that relationship. I also see no reason why the state should interfere in that relationship.

    As far as Baal, who liked to have little children sacrificed to him, I have no idea why a pagan god would be the best man at a Christian service. That WOULD be an abomination. Love, however, is not an abomination.
     
  11. wisdom

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    Do you actually OWN a Bible? I don't intend to bring out the verses, but you KNOW what they say, it specifically mentioned that it's an abomination. God loves everyone, he doesn't love their sin. If they can repent (turn away) of their sin (it is specifically a sin), He can then let them into heaven. They can't get in anymore than a thief.
     
  12. wisdom

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    BTW, I'm sorry to hear about your wife. It's sad that we live in a world full of perverts and violators.
     
  13. Slamminc11

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    Apparently "Rev. Phelps" hangs out on this site. You can always tell when "the extreme right" can't back up their argument because they throw out the animal card thinking that will work. Nice try pal!

    Guarantee is pretty definite and bold. How can you guarantee? I grew up with a father who was a minister in a fairly Conservative denomination, was never touched by anyone (adult or animal [see your other post]) didn't do drugs, parents who loved and supported me, played sports, but I turned out gay. Knew it from early junior high. So looking back, I guess the only thing that "turned me gay" would have been christianity since you guarantee that something did it to me, and that was the biggest part of my life growing up and the biggest influence from my beginning. But that would be wrong, because I know being a christian didn't turn me gay, why because I know beyond a shadow of a doubt that I have always been this way, no outside influences (because there were none) no movies that said I should be, no animal trying to dry-hump me that turned me on. I am this way because I am, just as you are they way you are because you are. Plain and simple.
     
  14. wisdom

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    Perhaps you missed the genocide statement that was thrown at me, that's a good indication that your side is losing.

    So I assume that when you orgasm, you don't ejaculate? Explain to me what purpose your semen has in some guys anus? I know that when a man ejaculates inside a vagina, it will probably lead to a pregnancy. So...if does a gay man get pregnant, does it clear up acne. I have to assume that if being gay is genetic, there must be a genetic answer to the sperm thing? It just seems redundant to have sperm in the first place if genetically you aren't going to use it. Perhaps its that whole appendix thing :lol:
     
  15. Slamminc11

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    Well, thanks for playing, but my sperm has never been in a man's ass nor has anyone's been in mine. Personally to me, I think that is pretty disgusting. But that is just me. But thanks for clumping me in with all gay people. But to be fair, I did kind of clump you in with all the ubber right wing freaks, maybe you aren't, but you are sounding like it at times.
    You have convinced me of one thing, and that is this. Straight people, the only reason you are here on earth, the only reason that God made you is so that you can have sex to keep the species going. It has nothing to do with love, has nothing to do with your lives together, doesn't have anything to do with growing old together. It is all about making babies so they can grow up to make more babies. Now, if I am wrong, please clarify, but that is what I see you saying. The statements I have made in this and other posts is what I understand you statements to be. If I am wrong, then clarify. I'm just telling how I am interpreting what you have said.
    I know that when a man ejaculates in a woman vagina that is past menopause, she isn't getting pregnant. When a man ejaculates in a woman's vagina and she has had her tubes tied, she isn't going to get pregnant. Are they clearing up acne?
    I'm sure you are a nice guy, but I really think you are reaching on some of your points. It's obvious we aren't going to agree on this issue and probably others as well, but when you assume I am what I am because of someone molesting me, my parents neglecting me, watching a movie, or somehow I am on the path (because I am gay) to not only want to marry another guy but also animals, I have a hard time respecting your opinion. But then again, "Gay is a choice" is just that, your opinion, not fact.
     
  16. Bogy

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    :lol: :lol: :D :grin: :rolleyes: At an estimate I own at least 30 Bibles, including the Hebrew OT and the Greek NT (several copies of each), but not counting the 20 or 30 versions I have in software, once again including the Hebrew and Greek. You are right, I do know all the verses. I even know what they say in the original language. Do you? Or do you only know how they have been translated into English? I agree with these passages that rape, including male on male rape to humiliate someone is an abomination. So is sex between a man and a boy. So is having sex with your slave or a temple prostitute. AFAIK, my daughter has never done any of these things. Instead, she is a sweet girl, who with a very busy schedule in college spends a great deal of her time taking care of children in emergency situations, building houses with Habitat for humanity, raising money for people with needs of all kinds, and does this at least partly because she is a Christian. But a Pharisee like you knows for sure that she is going to hell. I don't think so. Jesus said the greatest commandment is love. My daughter is nothing better than the epitomy of love. I have no doubt God loves her and accepts her. Do you eat pork, or shrimp? These are horrible abominations, and I hope if you currently do so you quickly repent before you die and go to hell for your dietary practices.
     
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    I guess the above sums it all up nice a neat, huh? I see how it is, you chose to accept the rules against rape and pedophilia, but chose to ignore the ones about sodomy and man lying with another man. I don't make the rules, God does and according to Him, she can build a million houses and feed a million homeless, but the sinner shall not inherit the kingdom of heaven. I feel really bad for your daughter, I have no idea how she came to such a disgusting choice. But if you care anything about her as her father, let alone a religious figure, you'll decide that her soul is far more valuable than oral satisfaction. The sad fact is that if I don't make heaven because of bacon wrapped shrimp, you'd be there right beside me for defying God and leading people astray. In which case, you bring the suntan lotion, and I'll bring the beer. ;)
     
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    Damn, hell is sure going to be crowded then! Guess God is going to get pretty lonely up there sounds like to me.
     
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    Before you go all off on him about which verses he choses to follow and which he doesn't, remember that every christian church and denomination does the same exact thing! Why is it that they have decided that blending fibers, eating pork, devorce, and a plethora of other "don'ts" in the bible but then chose to follow others.
     
  20. wisdom

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    Such is the price of free will and CHOICE.
     
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