The problem referenced [thread=29269]here[/thread] happened to me again and persisted for a couple of days while I waited for the L185 auto-reboot to fix it (I guess I'm just a tester at heart). I was up watching TV too early Wednesday AM for the reboot to occur, and this morning I had turned the box off while watching a recorded event instead of watching live TV. No auto-reboot occurred, and I had no video when I powered up just now. SD/HD twice (first one turned on SD light, second switched it back to HD) brought it back, and I had a black screen with 77 UKN for info, the PIP window was still where I left it (away from default position), and the 29269 problem was still there. Normally (or maybe prior to L185), if I turn off the 921 while watching an event, it comes back up to live TV just fine. Don't know if this failure mode is due to the problem referenced in thread 29269, or due to L185. I did a front-panel reboot and normal behavior seems to be back. Point is, the auto-reboot routine didn't complete for some reason.