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cablevision has a 10 tuner dvr!

Discussion in 'DIRECTV General Discussion' started by celticpride, Jul 24, 2013.

  1. inkahauts

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    Actually makes more sense that its so low because its to the cloud. They have to buy so much space and keep up all the servers, they also have to fairly allot all that space among all their users. I would imagine the one upswing to that is that they likely will have fault tolerant storage on the recordings, so you wont have to worry about any of your hardware diing and then losing all that you recorded. And it measn they can simply keep up a massive server farm, and put out less expensive hardware in customers homes. And the recordings will come over like vod I imagine.
     
  2. Laxguy

    Laxguy Honi Soit Qui Mal Y Pense.

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    In the cloud= IPTV. Can't wait to see the bandwidth required.
     
  3. Steve

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    It's been a few years since this went to court, but, IIRC, Cablevision originally envisioned this as a sort of "on demand" cloud DVR service available to their "triple play" customers. IOW, if 100,000 customers wanted to record The Mentalist, e.g., they'd simply keep enough copies of the show on their servers to be able to stream it on-demand to those that added it to their To Do lists. Makes sense, right? Unfortunately, the networks took them to court over this and a judge ruled that they could only do this if they stored a unique copy of each recording per customer. So in this example, they have to store 100k copies of the same show. :(
     
  4. LI-SVT

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    Its $12 per month for the RS DVR per account

    Its $7 per month per box

    Some accounts get a single $1.50 per account additional outlet charge

    They have no HD fee

    When you add up equipment and package prices Cablevision is cheeper than Directv.
     
  5. Steve

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    They provision the internet as well, so it's a "home run" from your home to their data center. I believe any extra bandwidth required is included in the $12.95 monthly fee for the service.
     
  6. tonyd79

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    If it is in the cloud, why any tuners at all? Just stream whatever you want?
     
  7. Steve

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    I just wonder when the first time will be that they pull something you've recorded. Though I guess even DirecTV could do that with a hard drive DVR recording by remotely deleting it.
     
  9. Steve

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    Looks like "keep" defaults to 14 days for single records, or "until space needed" for series links.

    http://www.optimum.net/downloads/csupport/multiroomdvrguide.pdf
     
  10. joshjr

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    I didnt see any reference that all 10 tuners could record in HD. You know, kind of like Dish who really didn't specify ti very well on the Hopper with its 6 tuners that are really not 6 tuners unless you want mostly network programing.
     
  11. Steve

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    They're "virtual" tuners and they can all record HD (up to 75 hours total), but you must have an HD box to view HD recordings. That's not an extra expense, tho, because, Cablevision has no "HD service" charge and they bill the same $7/month for an HD box, SD box or DVR.
     
  12. dvdmth

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    I don't know about Cablevision, but for Comcast, cloud storage was advertised when they first announced their X1 DVR's, but to this day it's not yet activated because the feature isn't ready. So, the 75 hours of HD (which you only get on HD channels with added compression - on full bit-rate MPEG2 HD channels you only get about 60 hours) is the current limit until the cloud abaility is available. On the support forums they bring this up whenever people ask about the relatively low storage capacity of their DVR's.

    I might also point out the 500GB is huge in the eyes of cable companies. It took a very long time for Motorola (one of the major STB makers) to offer any DVR with support for more than 160GB of internal storage (larger hard drives would always have only 160GB used). Many of these DVR's are still deployed to customers now - the one we have from Comcast (which was replaced about a year ago) has a 160GB drive in it, and they almost gave us an older model that might have had only 120GB until we asked for something newer.

    Cable always seems to be a few years behind the curve.
     
  13. pdxBeav

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    Why the skepticism about a 10 tuner DVR? I was using an 8 tuner DVR based on a Ceton cablecard setup two years ago. I know the negative attitude towards cable companies around here, but they are really no different than the sat companies. They might be a little slow in rolling out new technologies, but that doesn't mean they are incapable of providing something the sat guys aren't.
     
  14. Laxguy

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    If it's IP based, ten tuners is nothing. I have a hundred on my Mac and have had for years. Well, at least several dozen. I've never tried to stream 100 feeds, and more than a couple is too many unless they're being recorded.
     
  15. Mike Bertelson

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    What I find odd is this Multi-Room DVR can't rewind live TV (Link). The manual says you can pause live TV for upto 15 minutes...I assume it doesn't buffer live TV until you hit pause?

    I guess it makes sense since all the recordings are stored on remote servers...Unless I'm missing something?

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  16. Steve

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    Looks like the 15 minute buffer is for their conventional DVR with local storage.

    You probably need to schedule a recording and watch it "in progress", if you want a "multi-room DVR" buffer you can rewind into, since that's cloud-based storage coupled with a diskless STB at home.
     
  17. Mike Bertelson

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    Apparently it is only active when you hit Pause. I’m guessing since it diskless they can’t afford the space to buffer everyone’s DVR.

    About Multi-Room DVR

    I seems like it’s possible that as they add server space they could increase everyone’s storage capacity. That would be cool to get a bump in capacity without doing anything to your system…aside from the fact I’m not really a fan of cloud storage in this application.

    I have a recording of the HDNet Test Pattern on my HR24 & HR21 that’s been there for years. You can’t do that with this DVR. According to the manual it defaults to keep for 14 days unless it’s a series and it will delete old stuff when space is needed. You’d have to keep a careful eye on your space usage to make sure you don’t lose something you care about.

    Mike
     
  18. Steve

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    Mike, Edited my post while you were replying. Looks to me like the 15 minutes refers to their conventional DVR (with disk).
     
  19. Mike Bertelson

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    Yeah, their conventional DVRs can rewind live TV upto 15 minutes. It seems the Multi_Room will buffer 15 minutes if you press pause but it isn't clear whether it continues to buffer when you hit play...a bit confusing.

    Mike
     
  20. Drucifer

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    I don't think they're keeping individual copies of the same show. Probably only a link is stored.
     

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