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Can Dish HD-DVR's record 2 "true" HD programs at the same time?

Discussion in 'DISH™ High Definition Discussion' started by Shield, Jan 3, 2008.

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  1. Jan 3, 2008 #1 of 33
    Shield

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    I looked at the Dish 722 DVR on their website, and it states the 2nd tuner's output is 480i.

    So, if I'm recording two 720p/1080i programs at once, is one of them going to be restricted to 480i? Or is this only for playback?

    Sorry if this has been answered before....
     
  2. Jan 3, 2008 #2 of 33
    Ken Green

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    If you have OTA connected, the 722 can actually record 3 HD events simultaneously, 2 without OTA. In fact, you could be recording 3 HD events, and watching the playback of a 4th HD event previously recorded.
    The 480i output you are referring to, is the SD output for TV2, and has no relation to the recording capabilities of the HD DVR.
     
  3. Jan 3, 2008 #3 of 33
    Shield

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    I see - it's confusing to someone how they say the 2nd tuner is only 480i. I assumed that was meant for recording.
     
  4. Jan 3, 2008 #4 of 33
    BobaBird

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    They shouldn't be saying that. An output is not a tuner. Tuner 2 can record HD just as well and at the same time as tuner 1 (and OTA if connected). The TV2 output views everything as 480i even though the source, live or recorded, is 720p or 1080i.
     
  5. Jan 4, 2008 #5 of 33
    Shield

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    You know, I sort of wish I posted this beforehand - I called Dish and was told the 2nd output was 480i - I specifically asked the rep "Does that mean I can only record 1 thing at a time in HD?" to which he told me yes.

    Based on that, I went with Directv. That was a huge part of the decision...
     
  6. Jan 4, 2008 #6 of 33
    Gilitar

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    This is an example of why you should NEVER listen to what the phone reps says. Most don't know what they are talking about.
     
  7. Jan 4, 2008 #7 of 33
    GrumpyBear

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    I don't understand why people would rather use a ViP622/722 without the PiP feature, and use it for a 2nd TV instead? I know there was Marketing material for it that way, but the cost of a SD reciever, either outright or lease, would have to be a easier and simpler way of doing it, and use the dual tuner ViP622/722's to thier fullest potential.

    It would also not confuse the Highly paid CSR's on the phone. :lol:
     
  8. Jan 4, 2008 #8 of 33
    ssmith10pn

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    Actually it can't record any "True" HD as the marketing gods have deemed "True" HD 1080P :D :D
     
  9. Jan 4, 2008 #9 of 33
    HarryS

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    That wouldn't work for everyone. I have tuner 2 outputting to a whole house distribution network, it feeds 3 TV's. I also have a second receiver(501) for my bedroom. Plus, I don't miss the PIP, as I've never used it.;)
     
  10. GrumpyBear

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    Hard to miss something you never used. If you did, you would have a 2nd 622 for those other 3 tv's.:D
     
  11. ssmith10pn

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    Yep I really enjoyed all the bowl games on side by side PIP. :)
     
  12. Ron Barry

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    Yes the dual tuner PIP features comes in very handy on Jan 1st. :D as does the dual buffer capabilities. Very handy indeed.
     
  13. ClaudeR

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    I don't use PIP. The fullest potential is accessing all the recorded shows from 2 different locations, as well as the 2 location DVR without the extra DVR fee. Yes, the 622/722 is a VERY nice unit, and can please a majority of the users. And it's easy to swap from dual mode to single mode. A very sweet piece of technology. I have yet to enable the USB storage - I have a 722 so there's a whole lot of storage built in. :)
     
  14. Jim5506

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    I don't use pip,but I do use swap and it's nice to have two HD programs being buffered at the same time and be able to jump back and forth between them and FFWD/REW to pick up most of both.
     
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  16. GrumpyBear

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    Was working with a buddy of mine last night with his new 722. His was showing him how to change it back to single mode. It is easy, and then we started playing around with it and noticed that he could use Single mode, and then just change it on the fly to dual tv mode when the kids need it in the other room. Makes the 622 and 722 even more flexible, with just a push of a button.
     
  17. GrumpyBear

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    I use swap button, more than the PiP button, but its the samething overall function.
     
  18. crazypat

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    Actually True HD is anything in 720p, 1080i, and 1080p. that has not had it's signal reprocessed.
     
  19. mikeyinokc

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    Might you have missed his sarcasm? Methinks he was referring to the "marketing gods" that would have us believe that ONLY 1080p can be true, real, genuine, HD.
     
  20. 4HiMarks

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    To me, PIP is a very minor feature. I have used it on occasion, but I wouldn't miss not having it. I would much rather have access to the same recorded content from any TV in the house without having to program multiple DVRs for every flippin show. Then there's the case of watching the remainder of a show or movie in the BR after starting in the HT. Even if I did have it recorded, finding the place we stopped would be a PITA.

    Then there's the cost. Each receiver you have adds another $5 to your bill. If it's a DVR, it might be more. I have TV2 fed into a distribution network that goes to four TVs even though we almost never watch two of them. It would be a huge waste of money to put any receiver on them at all.

    -Chris
     
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