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Can I give myself Eastern Arc?

Discussion in 'DISH™ High Definition Discussion' started by NYBuddy, Feb 8, 2009.

  1. ImBack234

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    Replace the wife.:rolleyes::D
     
  2. scoobyxj

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    This is not the case. Your recievers have to be flaged for the eastern arc. If you throw a 1000.4 dish up there you will not get any SD programming off it due to your rec is looking for it's SD channels in MPEG-2 format. All channels on the Eastern Arc is is MPEG-4 regardless of SD or HD. Another warning to heed. At first any HD system Dish Mover that was been done, and had to be modified to an E.A. due to a No LOS condition for the W.A. had to have the receivers actually replaced. For some reason E* was not able to get existing W.A. flagged receivers to except a switch to a E.A. system.
     
  3. James Long

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    Sorry. But DISH does not know that I have an EA DISH and my SD channels are coming in fine.
    All I needed was the G3 cards to read the new encryptions and of course the dish.

    I even had a Dish500 picking up 72.7 and 61.5 before I got my 1000.4 from eBay.
    Blank channels until my G3 cards were installed. Fine after that.
     
  4. Jason Nipp

    Jason Nipp Analog Geek in a Digital World Staff Member Super Moderator DBSTalk Gold Club DBSTalk Club

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    I also installed an EA without notifying Dish. Works fine, as long as you have the new smart cards.

    I will say though, if you have 72.7 hooked up, it is dominant over 119.
     
  5. RickDee

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    You may have a valid point, however, wasn't there something a few years ago where the satellite providers were required to provide all programming on a single dish instead of 2 or more dishes? I believe that's what prompted the Super Dish and then the 1000 series. Plus the fact that I literally don't have anyplace to mount a 2nd or 3rd dish.
     
  6. Mertzen

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  7. James Long

    James Long Ready for Uplink! Staff Member Super Moderator DBSTalk Club

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    All local channels must be available on a single dish. All HD locals must be available on a single dish. They do not have to be the same dish as each other and do not have to be the same dish that other programming is available on.

    What is not allowed is for satellite carriers to put some locals from a market on one dish and other locals in that market on another dish. DISH did that for a while offering free second dishes for the 'extra' locals in many markets.
     
  8. RickDee

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    You would need a truck with a bucket to get you up to the second dish if I were to put one of those on my house, plus, I don't know that it would stand up in the wind without significant support to stabilize it. And, my wife has already made it clear I have all the dishes I'm going to have.
     
  9. Jason Nipp

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    That's why I started mounting at ground level. It's easier to change out than climbing my second story roof.... Especially since I am not doing well with heights these days.

    I used to have 4 dishes on my roof. OK one was MMDS but it had a reflector. :grin:
     
  10. RickDee

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    If I had a choice then that would be a viable option. However, due to terrain and vegetation, I don't have that choice.

    You have to do the best you can with the conditions you have available and that is exactly what I have done.
     
  11. NYBuddy

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    I started this thread and want to thank you all for your responses. I will be looking on ebay for a 1000.4 so I can reduce the number of eye sores (for my wife) on my house. (Personally they make me tear up looking at them all, they are so beautiful!)

    Besides E-Gay is there another cost effective place I should look?
     
  12. James Long

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    Got any friendly local retailers?
     
  13. NYBuddy

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    Nope... :(
     
  14. tkrandall

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    Tried solidsignal or other such online retailers?
     
  15. Michael P

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    I got my DDP LNB's from Claude at The Dish Store, a.k.a. Metro 25 up in Detroit.

    He's got everything you need do do a DIY DBS install.
     
  16. TheChef

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    I'm curious about a couple things James. How long since you changes your setup to EA? Have you had any software update delays since then. And really my big question, is have you made any programming additions or subtractions since you modified your setup to EA? I usually see that if the dish is pointed at 119/110 Western arc for example and Dish thinks the setup is 61/72/77 EA that anything involving adding programming, or authorizing anything tends to cause a problem.
     
  17. James Long

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    I have not made any programming changes since inserting the G3 cards. I see the "input" on the 1000.4 dish as a challenge and invitation to add one more orbital to the equation so for the first few months of having an EA dish I had 110 from another dish fed into there. I changed that over to 129 when Ciel-2 reached orbit so I could check signal levels. My setup is currently 61/72/77/129 on my ViP-622 plus 110 on my ViP-211 (adding 110 with a DP21 on the 1000.4 output. My SD receivers (301/501) are fed 119/110/118/129 via a DPP44.

    Yes, my setup isn't typical. No, DISH doesn't know what I have unless they read my posts. :D

    No issues noted except before I got my G3 smartcards (channels from 72 remained scrambled).
     
  18. Calvin386

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    After talking with CSR a few times I have an EA coming on Wed the 18th. They had to cancel my locals to make it work in the computer but I'm getting it.

    It's no fun making manual timers for OTA locals.
     
  19. Jason Whiddon

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    Question about the "cards". I have a ViP 722 that I got in April 2008. It was connected to a 1000.2, but I closed the account in July 2008. Im planning on ordering a 1000.4 soon and hooking it back up for TurboHD bronze. Do I need a new card?
     
  20. ImBack234

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    If you didn't get a new card mailed to you last year then the answer is probably yes.
     

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