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Can you hook up an OTA with the HR44?

Discussion in 'DIRECTV HD DVR/Receiver Discussion' started by purtman, May 3, 2013.

  1. Laxguy

    Laxguy Honi Soit Qui Mal Y Pense.

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    No one thinks that with only a few hours gone by from initial install that waiting for the '44 to be fully loaded might make a diff??
     
  2. itzme

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    I had an hr44-700 installed last week and my am21 worked with it while the tech was still here. I did have fewer OTA channels than I did with my previous hr24. While I was a little disappointed in that, I was impressed that I could access the OTA channels from my c41s guide. The hr44 is running 0x725 fw.
     
  3. Steve

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    No. The AM21 should be immediately recognized. As far as GUIDE data is concerned, OTA channel info isn't added to the GUIDE until after the primary (and secondary) OTA markets are determined. That happens as part of OTA set-up.
     
  4. ticmxman

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    No one thinks that with only a few hours gone by from initial install that waiting for the '44 to be fully loaded might make a diff??


    I suppose it could, maybe something changed in the latest software update that effected more than just the AM21's scanning for channels. It can't hurt to try again later.
     
  5. Steve

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    See itzme's post above. He just installed his AM21 last week running the same 0x725 that's available today.
     
  6. itzme

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    FWIW, The am21 did not get any channels from my secondary market. Both my primary and secondary market zip codes appear in System Info, under "antenna"
     
  7. Steve

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    But just to be clear, they didn't appear automatically. You (or the installer) had to enter those zip codes into "Initial Setup", under "Settings", "Sat and Antenna", "Antenna Setup", correct?
     
  8. itzme

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    Correct. The setup prompted for both. The setup gave me all my primary channels that had been listed in the HR24, that this HR44 replaced.
     
  9. mpie314

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    I think I may need to go this route to get my local CW channel. I live in Waci and get the National DC feed but only in HD. When you do the set up can you pick and choose what OTA stations to add to guide? I have no problem getting my local big 4 in HD with satellite. I know you can only record 2 things at once off the AM21 (I have the genie HR44) just don't want there to be an issue when recording multiple shows at once from the big 4.
     
  10. Supramom2000

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    I don't think you can pick and choose. But just because they are in the guide doesn't mean you have to use them. I don't use any of my network locals from OTA. But their sub-channels have great programming!
     
  11. TXD16

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    There are two ways to control which AM21 OTA channels appear in the guide:

    1. Create a custom guide list and select only those OTA channels (and, of course, any others) that you wish to appear in said list (this is the method I use):
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    2. After completing your initial AM21 setup, under Edit Off-Air Channels, select only those OTA channels that you wish to globally appear in any guide list:
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  12. Supramom2000

    Supramom2000 In Loving Memory of Onyx-2/23/09

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    Good advice! I don't remember being able to do option 2, but mine has been set up for so long...
     
  13. mpie314

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    Thanks for the help guys! ANy suggestions on a quality indoor antenna? I've seen on amazon they have the AM21 paired up with the Mohu Leaf 30. That one seems like it is quality and gotten good reviews.
     
  14. Supramom2000

    Supramom2000 In Loving Memory of Onyx-2/23/09

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    I got mine through solid signal. One of the flat pancake ones.
     
  15. sangs

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    They still make the Silver Sensor? Have had mine for several years now and it pulls in stations for which Antenna Web tells me I need a roof-mounted antenna. Just sits on my first-floor window sill. Unfortunately, the database on the AM21 doesn't pick up all the local sub channels I have available. :mad2:
     
  16. IndyBov

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    KyL416, could you perhaps lookup the local channels for me? I just had DIRECTV installed yesterday. We have the Genie HR44-500

    and two of the Genie mini C41-100.

    The OTA channels I am interested in are 13.3 and 59.2 in the Indianapolis market. My zip code is 46112 and the county is Hendricks.

    Thanks much as my wife if somewhat upset she can't see/record her MeTv of AntennaTV

    Bob
     
  17. coconut13

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    Here's what you can try with your AM21 to get the channels you are looking for. First off 13.3 METV is in the database for Indy and by running your home zip code you should get that channel. Run your home zip code as your primary and run Jacksonville FL (32201) as your secondary zip. Jax has a 59.2 and 59.3 in the database and your AM21 will pick them 2 channels up because of this. You will have the wrong guide (Jax guide) on those channels but you will be able to view them. No way to match zip codes to get the correct guides on those 2 channels. Then to get 6.3 and 6.4 channels run Philadelphia PA (19101) as your primary and Sacramento CA (94203) as your secondary zip. 6.3 will have the correct LAFF guide as both Indy and Philly carry LAFF on 6.3. 6.4 which is ESCAPE in Indy, will have the Sacramento guide on that channel, which will be incorrect. But again, no way to match to get the correct guide. So by running 4 zips you can get 6.3,6.4,59.2, and 59.3 although 3 of the 4 will have the wrong guide. This is the best you can do, with the way D* database of channels works.
     
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  18. IndyBov

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    Thank you very much coconut13. I appreciate the information. My AM21 is on the way.

    Bob
     
  19. coconut13

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    One thing to remember about the AM21. Your antenna has to pick up a strong enough signal in order for it to log a channel in. If the signal is sporadic or to weak, you will not have the channel even if it's in the database for Indy. So when you get your AM21, run your home zip as primary and Jax as secondary the first time and then run Phil. as primary and Sac. as secondary. The order matters, as once a channel is established another channel with the same number will not override it. This will give you all the channels described if your antenna signal picks them up. Another note, you might have some duplicate and unwanted channels by running additional zip codes. You just have to weed them out with your favorites list.
     
  20. coconut13

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    I've studied the Indy database a little more and found you can also get 23.2 BOUNCE with the correct guide by matching to Buffalo NY (14201). Both Indy and Buff, carry Bounce on 23.2 and 23.2 is not in the database for Indy, but it is for Buff. So here is the updated way to go about it. Run 46112 and 32201 the first run. Run 19101 and 14201 the second run. Then the third time run 46112 and 94203. This should give you 6.3,6.4,23.2,59.2, and 59.3 in Indy, with 6.3 and 23.2 having correct guides. If you run the setup 3 times in this order with those zip codes, you will add those channels not in the database for Indy.
     

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