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Can't get HD....OTA options?

Discussion in 'DIRECTV Installation/MDU Discussion' started by Justin23, Mar 10, 2009.

  1. Justin23

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    Well it looks like a tree is blocking my LOS to 99 and 103 (I get a 94 signal to 101 just fine) so alas until the root killer kicks in at my apartment complex I am without HD. So I am looking at my options for OTA. Few questions:

    1. Will the AM-21 work with the R-22?

    2. Do I need HD Access on my acct to activate the AM-21?

    3. Do access the HD On-Demand content you need HD Access, correct?

    3. If I just get an OTA antenna and run it through my HDTV's ATSC tuner, I can't use the DIRECTV DVR to record the OTA programming, correct?

    4. Any recommended OTA antennas? I live in zip 32803 Orlando, FL.



    Thanks for your help!

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  2. joshjr

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    Well it looks like a tree is blocking my LOS to 99 and 103 (I get a 94 signal to 101 just fine) so alas until the root killer kicks in at my apartment complex I am without HD. So I am looking at my options for OTA. Few questions:

    1. Will the AM-21 work with the R-22? No

    2. Do I need HD Access on my acct to activate the AM-21? Not that I know of

    3. Do access the HD On-Demand content you need HD Access, correct? Yes

    3. If I just get an OTA antenna and run it through my HDTV's ATSC tuner, I can't use the DIRECTV DVR to record the OTA programming, correct? Correct. Im not sure what SD DVR's have ATSC tuners in them. I know the D12's do but they are not DVR's. I use my antenna with a HR20-100. Works great and no AM21.

    4. Any recommended OTA antennas? I live in zip 32803 Orlando, FL. You can probably get an indoor HD antenna for your needs but if you want to be certain and are willing to put one up on the roof then I recommend either a Channel master 3010 or a 2016. They will mount to an old Satellite pole if you have a spare on the roof. Most of your towers say about 17 miles away. I bet a 50db indoor antenna would work for you though.



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  3. Justin23

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    Thanks for the responses. I wonder if I should just get an HD-DVR since I plan on getting HD one day? I don't mind paying the $10 fee and I can still access HD content on-demand and get locals through the AM-21.

    I think the only option for me is an indoor HD antenna because of my complex's rules on dish and antenna placement. Is there an outdoor one that would work for an enclosed balcony?


    Thanks!

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  4. Mertzen

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    I woukd say it is VERY VERY unlikely that a tree can take out 99 AND 103 and leave your 101 unaffected.

    Did a tech convince you? Did they even try to put up a dish?
     
  5. carl6

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    1. Actually, the AM21 works very well with the R22.
    2. At one point in time yes, but they have since changed that. You should be able to get it activated (the AM21 capability in the R22) without HD.
     
  6. Justin23

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    I live on the first floor and my round dish is inside my porch pointing out the side. The tree sits less than 10 feet from my porch. I used an authorized dealer that does upgrades (my original install was done by an HSP). The installer said if I want he would put the dish up but he is pretty certain that when the leaves fill in that I would get significant signal interruption. He said that getting signal to the 101 is easy but the 99 and 103 with the KaKu dish is more difficult. I didn't feel like he wasn't trying to get out of doing the work because I just have one TV and the receiver would be about 8 feet from the dish. Should I try to get someone else out here to at least try to get a signal? I know the tech won't get paid unless the receiver activates and I would feel bad if he tried to do the work to get the dish up and in the end it won't work.

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  7. Justin23

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    Will I get the HD locals with the AM-21 into an R-22 even though the receiver is SD?


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  8. Mertzen

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    I have a buddy in the orlando area. I can ask if he wants to take a look and hook up a temp dish and box to verify.
     
  9. Justin23

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    Here are a few pics of my porch (1st floor) and where my current dish looks at from the tripod. More than likely my HD dish will have to be mounted on the support beam on the left.


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    That would be awesome! Could he do it today? Thanks!


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  11. Mertzen

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    Yeah he can probably swing by later this afternoon. He's a HSP tech with truck and all. PM me your phone number and I'll pass it on.
     
  12. Justin23

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    From the pics I posted....anyone think the tech was just being lazy? He just used his elevation compass and didn't even bother hooking up an actual dish...


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  13. boba

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    99 is 2 degrees to the east of your existing 101 satellite and 103 is 2 degrees west of your 101 both are virtually the same elevation as 101. How can a tree block both sides of a working satellite dish without affecting your existing 101?:)
     
  14. Justin23

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    His excuse was that 101 was easier to get a signal from than 99 and 103. "101 can get the signal through trees" were his exact words I believe...


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  15. BattleZone

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    Actually, IMO you should never have been installed in the first place, because when those leaves come in, you're going to lose 101 too. Though the Ka-band signals ARE more sensitive to water (i.e., heavy rain clouds) in your line-of-site to the sat, leaves will block both Ka and Ku pretty effectively.

    You might need another jug of root-killer...
     
  16. Mertzen

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    Load of BS in regards to the 101 & trees.
    Now when were you installed?
    Hard to judge from pics. Elevation is quite high down there so you might be good.
     
  17. Justin23

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    The initial installation was July of last year....so the leaves are not an issue. I never lost signal unless it was a severe downpour. I think the elevation here in 32803 zip is 51 degrees.

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  18. Mertzen

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    So yeah once again. If you have 101 it is very unlikely not to get 103 and 99. 99 is even a bit higher in the sky.
    Only issues I see is mounting the bigger dish.
     
  19. BattleZone

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    If he's getting 101 through that gap in the second pic, it's pretty clear that he's not going to get 99 and 103, because better than 1/3 of the dish's surface is going to be blocked by the pillars.
     
  20. Justin23

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    Correct. Inside the porch will not work which is why I am going to go with installing it outside onto the support beam.


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