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capability of the H25-700 with the Phase 3 lbn 18 x 20 dish

Discussion in 'DIRECTV HD DVR/Receiver Discussion' started by stick, Aug 30, 2012.

  1. stick

    stick New Member

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    Hey guys.....
    I am trying to get my tv to work in my barn......
    I have my H25-700 receiver (HD)......
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    Phase III 3 lbn 18" x 20" dish (SD)

    Is this even possible to view just SD channels with this setup since the H25-700 says SWM-1 on the back of it?
    or will i have to buy a Slimline 3 lbn (looks like 1 eye with 3 inside it)?

    I tried this with my satellite finder and couldnt get it to even pick up a bird.....although on the SETUP of the receiver it does give and option for "Multiswitch" or "SWM" so i was confused as i thought this was SWM only....

    Any help would be sweet....
     
  2. jimmie57

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    The H25 requires a SWM system.
    You would need a Slimline 3 or Slimline 5 SWM dish and a 21 volt Power Inserter to make it work.
     
  3. stick

    stick New Member

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    Can i buy a green label SL3 or SL5 LBN and put it on my 18 x 20 old dish and will it fit into the "LBN hole" on that old dish? (i would also grab the switch and inverter) I would want the green label right?
     
  4. iceman2a

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    You can, with slight modification! You can either cut a notch in the LNB arm for the "KEY" onthe bottom to slide into or (what I did) grind off the "key"!
    This was with a SWM3LNB. The LNB holes will not line up if the LNB goes completly into the are but you can back it off about a 1/4 inch!
     
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  6. carl6

    carl6 Moderator Staff Member DBSTalk Club

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    There is a lengthy thread someplace about using a slimline LNB on a Phase III dish. It is harder to align, but can be done. My suggestion would be to just get a slimline dish, or an earlier model H2x that doesn't require SWM. Looks like iceman linked to the thread while I was typing.
     
  7. Go Beavs

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    You can use a phase III dish with the H25. You just need to hook it up to a SWM-8 or -16. Probably not the cheapest option though...
     
  8. carl6

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    Yes, that will work. Keep in mind though you will only get SD programming (no access to 99 or 103 satellites).
     
  9. stick

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    So if i use my current Setup but get a SWM-8 switch it will work for SD? do i also need a power inverter?

    Also, i do have a satellite finder from Radio Shck...will that make it easier to align if i put a SWM LBN on my old dish?
    Does everything need to be Green Label if i buy the LBN/Switches, etc?
     
  10. bobnielsen

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    It's probably easier to align if you don't have a SWM LNB.

    You only need green label for MRV (which you won't have with a single dish and receiver).
     
  11. carl6

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    The SWM8 switch does have/use a power supply/inserter.
     
  12. stick

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    So i can get a SL5 SWM LBN only (to rig up on my Phase III dish/arm........Power inserter......and then a SWM splitter? (or does it have to be the 8 or 16 SWITCH?
     
  13. Go Beavs

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    You only need the SWM switch when you're working with a legacy LNB, ie. phase III or slimline with 4 outputs. A SWM LNB requires a PI and appropriate splitter depending on how many receivers you're trying to hook up. If only one receiver, then you don't even need a splitter.
     
  14. stick

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    Sweet...so for my final clarificaiton:
    Use my Phase III and the Original LBN that is on it......just buy a SWM-8 switch only for SD in my barn....
    OR
    Use my Phase III, buy a SL3 (or SL5) SWM LBN and buy a PI for one receiver in my barn for HD channels (NO SWM SWITCH needed)

    Correct?

    Thanks a lot guys.
     
  15. Go Beavs

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    Looks like you've got it.
     
  16. carl6

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    Or, replace the Phase III with a slimline. If you want HD, this would be my recommendation.
     
  17. harsh

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    The information I have says that the SWM5, 8 and 16 switches will only work with the AU9 and AT9 compatible LNBs (because the lines must be WB68-style stacked).

    I suggest that the best solution is to use just about any other model receiver and to consider the input capabilities of the TV when making that choice.
     
  18. carl6

    carl6 Moderator Staff Member DBSTalk Club

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    You can feed the SWM8 and/or SWM16 with virtually any dish and it will work for what that dish is capable of receiving. An 18" round dish (101 only), the Phase III dish (101, 110 and 119), or the AU9 or AT9. As a DirecTV customer with DirecTV equipment, I can attest to this because I've done it.
     
  19. litzdog911

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    Your information is wrong.
     
  20. stick

    stick New Member

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    i picked up this LBN below as well as a SWM Power INserter....this will do the trick?

    Slimline SL3S4NR2-14 LNB

    DirecTV Slimline GREEN SWiM LNB SL3S4NR2-14 SL3 LNB SWiM Satellite Slim HD LNBF ( Lastest One on the Market )

    Capable of receiving DIRECTV satellite signals on the Ku/Ka band (99°, 101°, and 103° Satellites).
    One output carries satellite signal from Three satellites
    This LNB has 1 output for the new Slimline dish from DIRECTV.
     

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