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Caveat Emperor!

Discussion in 'The OT' started by jonstad, May 2, 2006.

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  1. jonstad

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    http://www.boston.com/news/nation/w...h_challenges_hundreds_of_laws/?p1=MEWell_Pos1

    For the record-
    Not much comment here. Pretty self-explanatory IMHO.

    But can there be any doubt left Bush and the neocons are making a concerted effort to create an imperial Presidency, marginalizing or even making irrelevant Congress and the courts?
     
  2. durl

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    oooooooh....an imperial presidency....ooooohhhhh....scarrrryyyyy...oooohhhh
     
  3. dpd146

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    How dare the President sieze "for himself some of the law-making role of Congress"

    That is the job of the Supreme Court. :D
     
  4. jonstad

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    Yeah, laff it up guys.:lol:

    A President issues what are essentially edicts, 750 times in a little over five years, that rewrites legislation, or describes why and how he may ignore and/or violate these laws, and you're worried about judges?:icon_stup

    George Bush has abandoned the veto. If he disagrees with legislation or thinks it unConstitutional because it infringes on executive power or other reasons, he should simply veto it. Instead, he signs them into law and then issues these "signing statements" absolving him of the duty to be bound by the laws he's just signed, including laws that specifically target the powers of the President.

    If he vetoed them, and Congress should override the veto, the law may easily be challenged in the courts. And this is the system designed by the founders and articulated in the Constitution. But this President believes he can be restrained by neither the Congress nor courts. Invoking the system that has served us so well these last two centuries plus is therefore not an option. The claim is all interpretation of legislation and Constitutionality rests solely with the President. A veto or court challenge would tend to call into question that claim. The signing statements neatly get around this by declaring the President is subject to, and only subject to, the legislation he chooses. If you think that's what the Constitution intended, you're living in a different country than the one I learned about in high school.
     
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    If you think that's what the Constitution intended, you're living in a different country than the one I learned about in high school.[/QUOTE]

    This President IS truly scary. All the neocons think Clinton should have been booted for lieing about a BJ. This guy needs to be booted for makin a hell of a lot more serious "errors in judgement."

    I just don't understand how anyone can think this guy is doing a good job.
     
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    ALL HAIL THE KING GEORGE W BUSH!! our leader forever ALL HAIL KING GEORGE
     
  7. dpd146

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    I think things will get better in his 3rd term
     
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