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CBS Sports Network is moving up the dial on DirecTV

Discussion in 'DIRECTV Programming' started by bobcnn, Aug 17, 2013.

  1. APB101

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    Perceivably, TheRatPatrol, DirecTV could take national sports programmers from the 600s, which are not including multi-regional college sports and regional sports screens, and move those national sports to the first section of the 200s (along with the other grouping which currently and sequentially starts with ESPN).

    The following would be considered for such moves:
    602 TVG
    604 Pursuit Channel
    605 Sportsman Channel
    606 Outdoor Channel
    613 CBS Sports Network (already reported)
    614 ESPN Classic
    618 Fox Sports 2
    620 beIN Sport
    624 Fox Deportes
    625 Universal Sports

    Fox Soccer Channel, which is not included here, goes away in early-September for replacement by the debuting, general entertainment FXX. The "Soccer" part will move to Fox Sports 1 and Fox Sports 2. The multi-regional college sports remaining would be Big Ten Network (five screens) and Fox College Sports (Atlantic, Central, Pacific).

    Those listed above are a numerical ten [10]. In the channel ranges of the 220s, they can fit. One may also surmise that finally moving CNN and Headline News out of chs. 202 and 204 into a block group with cable news and public-interest programmers could finally materialize. That may allow, under this scenario, DirecTV to move up ESPN from ch. 206 to 201. (All ESPN screens can fit from chs. 201 to 209 or 210. Include with this ESPN Deportes and the non-carried ESPN Goal Line/Buzzer Beater. But Longhorn Network, also not yet carried, would be in the 600s.) And it can result in a move of "Sports Mix" from ch. 205 to 200.) And from chs. 201 to 230, a lot of national sports could be accommodated. In fact, more can be adjusted with those beginning at chs. 229 (Home & Garden Television) through the 250 (empty or occupied) for national sports (with or without multi-regional college sports such as Big Ten Network, Fox College Sports and, as I think will it eventually get added, Pac-12 Network). Hell, DirecTV could take the Distant Networks in the tail end of the 300s and move those up to channel ranges of the 80s and 90s (for coverage of news/public interest and religious programming much already in that numerical section).

    Lots can be done.

    I think what should happen is that DirecTV should do a realignment. The last major one was in 1999. There weren't as many regional sports programmers, along with alternatives and overflows, back then. We didn't have Big Ten Network and Pac-12 Network (which combine for 12 screens). We didn't have as much in the way of the expansion of regional sports (which include foreign-language feeds like Time Warner Cable Deportes). Numerically, they add up to a lot of individual slots. And, whether this puts me in the minority, I will say here that the use of the dash-one ["-1"] is inconvenient and irritating. (Most subscribers and viewers don't want to commit them to memory. As example, my area Fox Sports Detroit is on ch. 663. SD and HD. But to go to the alternative, Fox Sports Detroit Plus, I have to add a dash-one for the high-def feed. Ch. 664-1. Dumb!)

    I have suggested it here before. And much of my inspiration for a mapping comes from AT&T U-verse. Right now, AT&T U-verse has a one-hundred block for regional sports and a one-hundred block for national sports. (Seasonal-subscription sports are in four-digit numbers.) DirecTV can do this. Or DirecTV can also decide to expand its one-hundred block into a two-hundred block for the seasonal-subscription sports screens. Would NFL Sunday Ticket, MLB Extra Innings, NHL Center Ice, and NBA League Pass, suffice given other seasonal-sports packages? One may also want to consider the period we're now in (which includes not just three- but four-digit channel numbering).

    These latest of sports moves seems like a delay of the inevitable. The regional sports are growing. To keep the split system (some in the 200s; some in the 600s), and not to employ an organized mapping that is logical, is just a waste of time. DirecTV could eliminate the current occupants of the channel ranges of the 900s and replace that block with the premium-movie programmers. DirecTV could take those audio music from the 800s and move those, along with the pay-per-views (from the 100s), into four-digit numbers. And DirecTV could have a three- or (as I would suggest) four-hundred block of sports programming: 500 (Regional); 600 (National & Multi-Regional College); 700/800 (Seasonal-Subscription). People viewing their preferred sports wouldn't have trouble following their regional sports (in the 500s) and seguing into the 600s (beginning with ESPN) and navigating the rest of the lineup (including an optional seasonal-sports subscription).

    I don't think this is the most complex thing [un]imaginable.
     
  2. JoeTheDragon

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    I also want to see local NON OTA NON sports channels added channels like the local news channels. maybe even other stuff like weatherscan or even some of national OTA sub channels.
     
  3. fleckrj

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    I have a totally different view. If a sports channel is in English and available nationally in a basic package, then it belongs in the 200s. If it is in Spanish it belongs in the 400s. If it requires the sports pack to see it (including the RSNs that are basic in-market but require the sports pack out-of-market), then it belongs in the 600s.
     
  4. ejbvt

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    Um... that's the way it's done now, for the most part. And it makes no sense.

    Any idea why CBSSN didn't move?
     
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    It makes perfect sense to me. Why put non-basic channels or foreign language channels in the 200s? It makes more sense to me to group channels by the package they are in. I have no problem going to 618 to find FS2, 620 to find beIn Sports, or 625 to find Universal Sports. If I did not have the sports pack, I would not want them cluttering up the 200s. I have no interest at all in Spanish language channels, but for those who do want them, they should all be placed together.


    Because it is not August 21 yet. The move is scheduled for Wednesday.
     
  6. Curtis0620

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    618 is not in the Sports pack.
     
  7. tonyd79

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    Yeah, that is the flaw in the packaging approach right now. They really aren't doing it. BTN is not in the sports pack either and it is 610.

    I would like national versus regional versus premium. They can be contiguous areas starting in the 600s or they could be two blocks but it makes sense to me that way. Not only would national/regional/premium be by package, but also by topic, in essence.
     
  8. tonyd79

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    I saw a report of BTN sub channels showing up. Not at home to verify.


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  9. ejbvt

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    Spanish is hardly a "foreign" language. Sports are sports and one shouldn't have to hunt for them...

    Grouping them by package will clutter things even more. The channels should be grouped by content. The channels you don't subscribe to SHOULD be hidden by the "Channels I get" filter, but THAT issue will never get resolved. Most of the Spanish channels wouldn't show unless you get a 5 LNB so that's a non-issue for most people.
     
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    There's a 610, 610-1, 610-2, 610-3 and 610-4 in my guide.
     
  11. tonyd79

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    That would be them. Thanks for the confirmation.
     
  12. TheRatPatrol

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    I don't know why they didn't start doing this along time ago.
     
  13. ejbvt

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    ESPN alts now on 209-1 and 209-2.
     
  14. JoeTheDragon

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    old SD boxes with the very old guide?
     
  15. TheRatPatrol

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    Yeah probably technology limitations.
     
  16. tonyd79

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    They dumped all the old guide support and the boxes that required it some months back.
     
  17. tonyd79

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    They messed it up. Should be 206-1 and 209-1.
     
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    Also 208-1, since ESPNU has also had alternate programming.
     
  19. JoeTheDragon

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    209-X seems to fit's better and maybe they can just put any ESPN alt stuff there.
     
  20. tonyd79

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    It fits better to have espn alt under espn2?
     

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