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CES2009: DIRECTV AM21 wins Innovation award

Discussion in 'DIRECTV General Discussion' started by Stuart Sweet, Jan 9, 2009.

  1. Rence

    Rence Cool Member

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    On Saturday on two different calls I was told that i could not order the AM21 because we have HD locals, in both cases they said "the system won't allow me to place the order". In both cases they checked with a supervisor who confirmed that they could not place the order because I was served by HD locals.

    We had the two HR22-100s added to the account and I went to the website and checked Add Kits and Equipment and the AM21 was not available to me. Today I go to Add Kits and Equipment and find that the AM21 is available to me. Not sure what has changed.

    I've already ordered one from a third-party, so I'm not going to try to order it from DTV.
     
  2. hdtvfan0001

    hdtvfan0001 Well-Known Member

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    I guess that opinion depends on who's sat service you use....:D

    I could have sworn this was a DirecTV area and thread...

    I've now seen both in operation in person (the 922 via a full-blown demo at the Dish booth at CES), and both have merits and deserved their respective awards.
     
  3. harsh

    harsh Beware the Attack Basset

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    By this definition, a five sided toothpick should be an innovation.
    Here's where we run afoul. Converting things to USB isn't all that innovative. If you look carefully, you can find dual tuner USB dongles out there. Adaptec announced the dual tuner AVC-3160 (NTSC and FM radio only) back in November 2004. I feel compelled to note that it didn't win any innovation awards at the 2005 CES. What does the AM21 bring to the party (aside from only being usable with DIRECTV receivers)?

    I agree that integrating a dual tuner USB module into the DIRECTV HD receiver software is new and perhaps even innovative but the module itself is not all that special in terms of what it does.
     
  4. hdtvfan0001

    hdtvfan0001 Well-Known Member

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    I hear you get one of those with every new Dish VIP 922 DVR ordered...:D
     
  5. tcusta00

    tcusta00 Active Member

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    Then by all means you shouldn't add one to your VIP622. I don't think DirecTV equipment would work with your Dish Network setup anyway. :rolleyes:

    Anyhow, the powers that be at CES decided that this was an innovation. You're free to disagree.
     
  6. Stuart Sweet

    Stuart Sweet The Shadow Knows!

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    I suppose you'd have to have one.

    The innovative aspect in my opinion is the way it is transparently supported in a piece of consumer electronics; no driver install, no big excitement. Plug it in, choose your market and it works.
     
  7. sraider

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    So what's so innovative about the tuner?
     
  8. dodge boy

    dodge boy R.I.P. Chris Henry

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    It allows you to combine your OTA channels with your Satellite channels, and allows you to DVR them for a seamless programing package.
     
  9. tcusta00

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    For those who don't think this is an "innovation" you should read up on the standards for the award:

    http://www.cesweb.org/awards/innovations/about.asp

    It is what it is. Again, feel free to disagree but I doubt anyone from the Industrial Designers Society of America (the judges) will be here to confirm or refute any suggested reasons for their decision. Any "contest" like this has a certain amount of subjectivity involved.

    Take a look at the innovations that won this award - there's nothing new, for the most part. They're all just products that have been improved upon or revised somehow.
     
  10. HDRoberts

    HDRoberts Godfather

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    I've has that for over 2 years with my Dosh 622. heck, DirecTV had that before the AM21 with the HR20.

    Again, I think the innovation awards given were more a function of the lack of innovation at CES this year.
     
  11. jacmyoung

    jacmyoung Hall Of Fame

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    As I said, that is the key, it looks very nice and high end in the cabinet:)
     
  12. RunnerFL

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    Apparently so. They just don't realize that no matter how many of us are here have and use OTA there are TONS more that don't even know what the connector is for on their HR20's. Those of us that use OTA represent a VERY small percentage of DirecTV's customer base.
     
  13. RunnerFL

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    That is completely false.

    I live in a market where DirecTV supplies locals in HD via the satellite and I can go on directv.com and order as many AM21's as my heart desires.
     
  14. RunnerFL

    RunnerFL Well-Known Member

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    Once again, you can order them on the website all day long. Just because a CSR or 2 says you can't have one because you get locals from DirecTV doesn't mean it's completely true.
     
  15. loudo

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    They don't show up as an item, that can be ordered, from my account. But as others have stated, it may be because I still have my HR20s.
     
  16. BattleScott

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    Bingo!

    I have heard a rumor that soon they will introduce a portable device that will plug into the existing HR Series DVRs and allow the user to expand the recording capacity of the DVR. It is tentatively called the EDM-21 (External Disk Module)... BRILLIANT!

    Later that year, they also will introduce a new 'circular disk' that will revolutionize the physics of transport!:D:D:D
     
  17. RunnerFL

    RunnerFL Well-Known Member

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    Yeah, that would be it. Once you add an HR22 or 23 you'll see it show up.
     
  18. loudo

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    I want to make my HR20s last as long as possible. Don't like the idea of having another piece of equipment, cluttering things up, if I don't have to.
     
  19. dennisj00

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    A large part of the 'innovative' piece of the award may be from not wasting the MILLIONS of tuners in every box that would be unused.

    I don't know anyone that is using the local HD channels or sub-channels OTA. They aren't impressed that I can get them (and record them) with $9.00 rabbit ears!

    Remember, the average subscriber doesn't want to be bothered with another connection, particularly an outside antenna!
     
  20. hdtvfan0001

    hdtvfan0001 Well-Known Member

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    From my vantage point...it appears good that some certain posters were not on the selection committee, as they did not have their dictionaries nearby. :D
     

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