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Charlie Ergin is the most hated man in Hollywood

Discussion in 'General DISH™ Discussion' started by dennispap, Apr 3, 2013.

  1. Apr 3, 2013 #1 of 31
    dennispap

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    http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/dish-networks-charlie-ergen-is-432288.

    "His company has been labeled the "worst place to work in America," he's being sued by all four networks, and his ad-skipping Hopper could decimate TV industry economics as THR examines the troubling potential outcome of the entertainment business' ugliest fight."
     
  2. Apr 3, 2013 #2 of 31
    RasputinAXP

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    Wow, that's quite the hit piece if I've ever seen one.
     
  3. Apr 3, 2013 #3 of 31
    lparsons21

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    Yep, it is quite a hit piece. They did get some things right, but not all.

    But frankly I"m glad Charlie does what he does and how he does it most of the time.
     
  4. Apr 3, 2013 #4 of 31
    ehilbert1

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    It's actually nice to have someone in charge that doesn't just bend over. It was a totally one sided piece but what do you expect?
     
  5. Apr 3, 2013 #5 of 31
    Stewart Vernon

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    To paraphrase the summation of their article...

    It's all enough to ask if the Hollywood Reporter is the most hated organization in Hollywood, and if so what can be done about it?

    :)
     
  6. Apr 3, 2013 #6 of 31
    Nick

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    The...
    "This story first appeared in the April 12 (2012?)
    issue of The Hollywood Reporter magazine."
     
  7. Apr 3, 2013 #7 of 31
    tsmacro

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    I'm sure since a whole year has passed his popularity has probably soared in Hollywood since then! ;)
     
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    higginsll

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    Sounds like he must be doing something right if Hollywood hates him so much. Wear it like a Badge Of Honor.
     
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    Wish I could afford to watch TV.
     
  11. James Long

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    We need to pay more in retrans fees so stations can pay their engineers?
     
  12. satcrazy

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    Great...
    actually pretty amusing.

    "Services [like Hopper] that undermine the economic fabric of our business aren't just illegal, they potentially destroy our ability to give the public what it wants," CBS chairman and CEO Leslie Moonves tells THR. Adds NBC Broadcasting chairman Ted Harbert, "I think this is an attack on our ecosystem."

    What the public wants is less commercials. A no brainer.

    I really don't get the "attack on our ecosystem" correlation.

    Am I missing something here?:rolleyes:
     
  13. TimCoh

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    The Elite Liberals in Hollywood want the pheasants to watch the commercials.

    Who is John Galt?
     
  14. jacksonm30354

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    Ok, not sure why people don't see that retrans fees are related to people skipping commercials. Advertisers don't want to pay huge amounts if people are going to skip them. So networks can't charge as much for a spot, so to make up they run more spots. That doesn't make up the difference so they go for the retrans fees.

    So if we want fewer commercials, we actually have to watch them (restrict skipping commercials), or move to a HBO model where we pay $12 a channel.
     
  15. inf0z

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    Fact - Dish Network is a horrible place to work.
     
  16. James Long

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    More like $18 (or less) for 8 channels (with HBO being the most expensive premium package).

    So is any distributor saving money on retrans fees by forcing their customers to view the commercials on their channels? Or are channel providers the type of businesses that want to force people to view commercials AND pay a monthly fee to view the channel?

    If broadcasters want to worry they should worry about Aereo. I do not expect Aereo to win the final court battle, but if they do it redefines retransmission. I would love to see proof of Aereo's claim that each of their user has their own personal antenna and DVR entirely separate from every other user's antenna and DVR. Aereo has limited their legal exposure by only offering in-market retransmission ... but if the court sees them for what they are - a service that provides retransmission of broadcast signals - they will need to follow the rules that apply to cable/satellite/IPTV providers. (And if the court allows their form of retransmission the court will need to rule in such a way that does not destroy the cable/satellite retransmission laws.)
     
  17. SayWhat?

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    Actually, retransmission fees need to be banned for broadcast stations. Once it leaves the tower, it should no longer be under their control.

    Also sounds like Madison Avenue chimed in above.
     
  18. Inkosaurus

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    ^Opinion.

    I worked there too and its just as bad as any other place I've worked.
    Stupid people calling in constantly surely does suck but they cant be avoided at most work places :p
     
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    Poor Hollywood. Poor TV networks. People are going to skip commercials. That's never happened before. Oh ya, maybe it's happened since the invention of the home VCR. Or the skip button on the DVR remote. Or maybe as far back as the invention of the TV remote control to allow changing the channel without getting off the couch.
     
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    Well, I actually agree. Commercials are for the birds.
     

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