I left E* a few years ago due to a combination of price hike aggravation and too many instances of rain fade. I moved to a F/O service (Plex) which hasn't been bad, but once again, price hikes have been aggravating. In addition, the DVR that Plex offers falls far short of the one we had in the VIP722k receiver (we left before the Hopper came out). So once again, I am contemplating changing service... largely due to a conversation I had with a D* rep in Costco the other day. I have become intrigued with satellite... again. Forget the promos... I'll take that FWIW, but I want to know what my costs are when the dust settles. When I go to the website (they've all changed since I last price checked satellite and seem more confusing than ever), I get one number... which differs from what a chat session indicates. We watch little if any prime time, but do like to watch and record multiple sporting events (ACC basketball, racing, etc.), cooking and food networks, and HGTV and some news. No premium channels, but will record an interesting movie that comes on the standard package channels occasionally. I also like the option to stream to my phone or tablet if I'm not home to watch whatever is live at the moment... primarily sporting events. So E*'s PTAT will not be important to us. I want coverage for 3 TVs (mix of SD and HDTV). From the respective websites, here's what I come up with: D*: Xtra package ($74), Genie, 2 Genie mini receivers, and 2 additional TVs ($12), the basic protection option ($8), receiver service set up on Autopay ($15): $109 plus taxes. Chat session priced that at $99/month plus taxes. E*: AT250 ($80), Hopper and 2 Joeys including protection plan ($26): $106 plus taxes. For all practical purposes, those are the same price unless I missed something. I don't care for unwelcome surprises, so please let me know what I may have missed that will affect 2nd year pricing and beyond. In comparison, my current Plex service runs about $105/month with whole house DVR. (actually less than that because it's bundled... but for comparison purposes, that'll do). What have I missed, if anything? I'm leaning to D* since I've never had them before, and I don't have the restrictions of PTAT recording. I never had any trouble with E* telephone support... or Plex support to this point. Of course I've read horror stories on all the satellite providers... so that seems like a crap shoot.