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Clinton Adviser Probed in Terror Memos

Discussion in 'The OT' started by Richard King, Jul 20, 2004.

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  1. Halfsek

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    I think this has been going on for nine months... not weeks.

    I question whether there really is a "timing" thing. Unfortunately, this story will be a non issue once the Democratic convention comes around.

    But Berger isn't an idiot. He did this for a reason. This guy was the National Security advisor. It's not that he "should have known better." He does know better.

    So either he's a complete fool who shouldn't have been appointed in the first place or he's up to no good.

    Kinda makes you wonder how "nationally secure" we were with this guy leading the charge.
     
  2. HappyGoLucky

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    Just what Karl Rove wants you to think. :nono:
     
  3. Richard King

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    Well, it's about time it popped then. :D
     
  4. Halfsek

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    Uhhh... yeah.

    Not only is he in on the conspiracy, but he always calls collect! The cheap *******!

    Y'know. For someone (Rove), who is supposedly behind so many nefarious deeds, you'd think he would have waited until October (y'know, right before the election) to leak this.

    Personally, I think if anyone leaked it, it was the Dems. This way it's old news by the time it actually counts.
     
  5. lee635

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    Nah, it was an R, and it was to deflect from the 9-11 report more than the D convention. Don't worry the R's and the D's have kept a few molatov cocktails for October (Note that both the R's and the D's are implicated here).
     
  6. BuckeyeChris

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    According to The Boldness of the President , NY Sun, http://daily.nysun.com/Repository/g...Type=text/html&Path=NYS/2004/07/23&ID=Ar01000

    "... Well, look now to what the 9/11 report has to say about the man to whom President Clinton, under attack by an independent counsel,delegated so much in respect of national security, Samuel “Sandy” Berger. The report cites a 1998 meeting between Mr. Berger and the director of central intelligence, George Tenet, at which Mr. Tenet presented a plan to capture Osama bin Laden.

    In his meeting with Tenet, Berger focused most, however, on the question of what was to be done with Bin Ladin if he were actually captured. He worried that the hard evidence against Bin Ladin was still skimpy and that there was a danger of snatching him and bringing him to the United States only to see him acquitted,” the report says, citing a May 1, 1998, Central Intelligence Agency memo summarizing the weekly meeting between Messrs. Berger and Tenet.

    In June of 1999, another plan for action against Mr. bin Laden was on the table. The potential target was a Qaeda terrorist camp in Afghanistan known as Tarnak Farms. The commission report released yesterday cites Mr. Berger’s “handwritten notes on the meeting paper” referring to “the presence of 7 to 11 families in the Tarnak Farms facility, which could mean 60-65 casualties.”According to the Berger notes, “if he responds, we’re blamed.”

    On December 4, 1999, the National Security Council’s counterterrorism coordinator, Richard Clarke, sent Mr. Berger a memo suggesting a strike in the last week of 1999 against Al Qaeda camps in Afghanistan. Reports the commission: “In the margin next to Clarke’s suggestion to attack Al Qaeda facilities in the week before January 1, 2000, Berger wrote, ‘no.’

    In August of 2000, Mr. Berger was presented with another possible plan for attacking Mr. bin Laden.This time, the plan would be based on aerial surveillance from a “Predator” drone. Reports the commission: “In the memo’s margin,Berger wrote that before considering action, ‘I will want more than verified location: we will need, at least, data on pattern of movements to provide some assurance he will remain in place.’

    In other words, according to the commission report, Mr. Berger was presented with plans to take action against the threat of Al Qaeda four separate times — Spring 1998, June 1999, December 1999, and August 2000. Each time, Mr. Berger was an obstacle to action. Had he been a little less reluctant to act, a little more open to taking pre-emptive action, maybe the 2,973 killed in the September 11, 2001, attacks would be alive today..."
     
  7. Richard King

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    From everything that I see today, for this to be a planned "timing event" for it to have any effect in taking attention away from the media's selected candidate, it would have to have been released two hours before the election. It appears to have already rolled off the bottom of page 17 into oblivion. As important as the story should be, the major media, as expected, appears to have gone into ignore mode already. If this had been Condi Rice (the Bush equivalent to Berger) stuffing docs in her clothing this would still be all over the front pages and never would have been relegated to page 17 in the first place.

    Oops, I found a story in the media today here: http://www.thespoof.com/news/spoof.cfm?headline=s2i5948
    I guess I spoke too soon.
     
  8. lee635

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    What about the outing of Ms. Plame? Seems that the media and the President have ignored this security breach. Where's your indignation about that security breach?
     
  9. Halfsek

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    Was she the supposed spy?

    That was a whole lot of nothing. It was a manufactured story with very little substance.
     
  10. HappyGoLucky

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    That's what Karl Rove wants you to think. :D
     
  11. Halfsek

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    Naw, he couldn't get through. I blocked his number.
    Cheap b-terd.
     
  12. Richard King

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    Actually, that "story" spent much more time on page one of the NYT than this one did. But then, this one was never important enough for page one, so that wouldn't be hard.
     
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