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CNN fires Rick Sanchez over controversial comments

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Wow, Sanchez calling Stewart a bigot? The Daily Show has spent more time in the last 6 months in pro-hispanic storylines (Arizona's law, The Fence, etc) than most other media. He said he was made fun of? Stewart makes fun of everyone, ESPECIALLY Fox, but I cant recall much of anything against Sanchez. Very strange.
 
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I liked Sanchez until about a year ago when it seemed that he was getting a little full of himself. As much as I liked his 'list' segment, I completely stopped watching a few months ago. In retrospect, he seemed like a train about to run off the tracks. Too bad
 
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Davenlr said:
Stewart makes fun of everyone, ESPECIALLY Fox, but I cant recall much of anything against Sanchez.
The seem to like reairing the tazer video. Yeah, dirty Sanchez crossed the line.

So, will Fox replace Beck with him? Seems like a lot of people just shift between the major networks. Sanchez was at ground zero for MSNBC.

My wife won't miss "Fotos" ... apparently the Spanish uttered in the theme is offensive. She would walk out of the room when she saw the bumper start.
 
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hdtvfan0001 said:
Not surprised.

He has indeed been full of himself for a while now. Not a fan of Anderson Cooper either.

OK - for that matter CNN has been in the tank for a while now. :D
They're not the only one's. There are countless others on CNN who report the news in a very opinioned manner. I miss the days when that network presented the news Jack Webb style, "just the facts". They would be more honest if they changed their name to "Conceited News Network"!
 
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He was fine in the afternoon when the news can be a little more breezy and not as serious. I didn't like him in the evening.

My only question was, "What was he thinking?" He knew better. But then, obviously he wasn't. Instead we saw the little kid Sanchez who has always felt like a second class citizen, no matter his success, a point excellently made by a blogger on the Huffington Post, although I certainly don't feel as sorry for him as the writer does. There's been plenty of time for Rick to grow up:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/mj-rosenberg/poor-rick-sanchez_b_747178.html
 
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MysteryMan said:
They're not the only one's. There are countless others on CNN who report the news in a very opinioned manner. I miss the days when that network presented the news Jack Webb style, "just the facts". They would be more honest if they changed their name to "Conceited News Network"!
...or....Commentary Necessary Network.... :D
 
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hdtvfan0001 said:
...or....Commentary Necessary Network.... :D
Find the network that does not have commentary on nearly every story.

That is the problem with all the networks. MSNBC, Fox, CNN and PBS all have news and commentary with the commentary not separated far from the news. No one seems to be able to tell a story without simply giving the facts and moving on. The reporters have to give their own personal opinion to the news to "relate" to their viewers.
 
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James Long said:
Find the network that does not have commentary on nearly every story.

That is the problem with all the networks. MSNBC, Fox, CNN and PBS all have news and commentary with the commentary not separated far from the news. No one seems to be able to tell a story without simply giving the facts and moving on. The reporters have to give their own personal opinion to the news to "relate" to their viewers.
Excessive Commentary, strongly agenda-based commentary, politically-motivated commentary - and not much more besides that.

They can easily take the News out of Cable News Network. It's been that way for some time now.
 
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hdtvfan0001 said:
Excessive Commentary, strongly agenda-based commentary, politically-motivated commentary - and not much more besides that.

They can easily take the News out of Cable News Network. It's been that way for some time now.
The point was (and is) the same can be said about the other networks. Slamming CNN again doesn't make the others any less commentary filled, and if you don't see the political motivation of both FOX and MSNBC you probably agree with the direction they lean.

A few years ago CNN ran a commercial portraying the morning news shows on the broadcast networks as people sitting on couches laughing over coffee. Now all the networks seem to spend more time "connecting" and less time reporting facts.
 
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James Long said:
The point was (and is) the same can be said about the other networks. Slamming CNN again doesn't make the others any less commentary filled, and if you don't see the political motivation of both FOX and MSNBC you probably agree with the direction they lean.

A few years ago CNN ran a commercial portraying the morning news shows on the broadcast networks as people sitting on couches laughing over coffee. Now all the networks seem to spend more time "connecting" and less time reporting facts.
So I take it you haven't noticed the radical changes at CNN over the past 3 years - from a world-wide news reporting network with clearly-defined commentary to nothing but agenda-based opinions and commentary...

Their personnel have drastically changed accordingly, and Rick Sanchez was yet another example of that kind of new agenda at the network.
 
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hdtvfan0001 said:
So I take it you haven't noticed the radical changes at CNN over the past 3 years - from a world-wide news reporting network with clearly-defined commentary to nothing but agenda-based opinions and commentary...
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Same can be said for Fox News. Like James said, "That is the problem with all the networks."
 
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I gave up on CNN for the most part sometime ago. They've gone downhill since the early days of the Iraq war. Many of their good reporters are gone. Every now and then, they do a good job of reporting (Katrina, Haiti, Nashville), but on a day to day basis quality of reporting has suffered.
Unfortunately, all the cable and broadcast networks seem to have gone for young, attractive people who are adept at reading a Teleprompter. There are a few reporters on NBC, ABC and CBS who do a good job of presenting the facts and actually go out in the field.
On another front (not meaning to hijack the thread), ever since NBCU took over the Weather Channel, it has become the Weather Entertainment Channel.
 
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Cholly said:
...On another front (not meaning to hijack the thread), ever since NBCU took over the Weather Channel, it has become the Weather Entertainment Channel.
Perhaps more appropriate, "Weather Entertainment Television, or WET. :sure:
 
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sigma1914 said:
Same can be said for Fox News. Like James said, "That is the problem with all the networks."
Fox, MSNBC, and CNN have that in common...little doubt.

Those three networks have voluminous reams of spin doctors. :eek2:

How about just the news? - in contrast to the steady stream of attempts to twist the facts, manipulate data, promote certain political agendas. and the like.

Rick Sanchez fit into the mold at CNN...then just cross the line more than even they liked...so another one bites the dust.
 
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Davenlr said:
Check out BBC World News [...] their actual news broadcasts are presented about as opinion free, and "just the facts" as I have found.
It would be impossible to present "just the facts" since reality is always filtered by perception and prejudice. The difference is that the BBC World News reporters make it clear when when they are expressing opinion and the opinions they express are based on experience, not on some political agenda.

Personally, I wish CNN would bring back Headline News. It was nice to be able to tune it and get a brief overview of the day's news. Now, you tune into "HLN" to see news and instead yourself watching some "Entertainment Tonight" type of crap or, worse, that Nance Grace character. I've suggested before that they restore Headline News and move all the "talking heads' shows to a new channel called "CNN Rap" (or CRAP for short).

-- Roger
 
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MysteryMan said:
...I miss the days when that network presented the news Jack Webb style, "just the facts"...
Were we getting "just the facts" prior to Walter Cronkite delivering his editorial questioning our continued involvement in the Vietnam War?

James Long said:
...A few years ago CNN ran a commercial portraying the morning news shows on the broadcast networks as people sitting on couches laughing over coffee. Now all the networks seem to spend more time "connecting" and less time reporting facts.
About two decades ago, one Boston TV station decided that the local evening news programs had already gone too far with the blow-dried, happy talk reporters and so they hired two respected, former local new anchors John Henning and Jack Hynes to establish a Huntley-Brinkley type, serious news alternative. They had some cute commercials where Henning and Hynes were applying for various jobs and kept getting turned down because they couldn't sing or dance. The tag line of the commercial was: "Henning and Hynes. All the news without the song and dance." Guess what? They flopped. We want the song and dance.

Davenlr said:
Check out BBC World News, and AlJazeera/English. Both have their "Opinion" Segmented shows, but their actual news broadcasts are presented about as opinion free, and "just the facts" as I have found.
I've noticed that Aljazerra, Russia Today and France 24 all now use British newsreaders, probably so that we will lower our guards since we trust the British. I watch all three more than I watch any domestic network news, because of the lack of fluff. I don't think I have seen a Lindsay Lohan story on any of them, nor have I seen the same worn out clips of that chick that went missing in Aruba. How many hundred times have we seen her on the cable "news" channels, turning the wrong way when she was marching with the flag?

Aljazerra's coverage of national disasters is exceptional, but they take a lot of pot shots at the US when covering news items pertaining to international conflicts. Just a few weeks ago, when a new development in the story of the South Korean ship that was sunk by an explosion was being reported, Aljazerra's designated expert repeated the claim that it could have been sunk by a mine (possible, I suppose), and that since the mine couldn't be identified, "...it could even have been a United States mine". He uttered that last sentence very softly, as any respectful and honorable Brit would.

Cholly said:
...CNN ...(has) gone downhill since the early days of the Iraq war. Many of their good reporters are gone. Every now and then, they do a good job of reporting (Katrina, Haiti, Nashville), but on a day to day basis quality of reporting has suffered. Unfortunately, all the cable and broadcast networks seem to have gone for young, attractive people who are adept at reading a Teleprompter. There are a few reporters on NBC, ABC and CBS who do a good job of presenting the facts and actually go out in the field.
Every news anchor in every studio has to rely on a Teleprompter to keep the show synchronized, just like everyone from the golden age of Walter Cronkite, Huntley and Brinkley, and Harry Reasoner and Howard K Smith relied on the typed scripts they were reading. Shep Smith (the guy that looks like James McArthur) hosts Fox New's only real news show. It is nearly all teleprompter, and very straight, and it gets the lowest ratings of any Fox News show from 3:00 and through 11:00 AM.

The reduction in staff field reporting is for economic reasons. All networks close foreigh bureau after foreign bureau because the cost of staffing them just so that they can be in place for a breaking story or two a year isn't worth it.

Remember when Fox News established "Camp Geraldo"? I would have been just as happy to have been spared those self aggrandizing performances. "Here I am, Geraldo Rivera, within miles of the actual fighting". As I recall, he was actually more than 100 miles from the fighting he was reporting on that day,

Earlier this year, I heard one of the originators of Fox News say that early on, they concluded that CNN was making a mistake by trying to be a straight news station, devoid of personalities, and so they deliberately set out to hire and develop appealing on-air personalities. Their ratings show that doing so works.

...ever since NBCU took over the Weather Channel, it has become the Weather Entertainment Channel.
Nick said:
Perhaps more appropriate, "Weather Entertainment Television, or WET. :sure:
A few months ago, I read that the Weather Channel was feuding with one of the cable giants because its present content does not serve the cable company as well as they believe that an all weather channel would serve it, and that because of that, the did not feel that the Weather Channel, as presently constituted, was worth the price they were paying for it or the favored channel line-up placements they were giving it.

jadebox said:
...Personally, I wish CNN would bring back Headline News. It was nice to be able to tune it and get a brief overview of the day's news. Now, you tune into "HLN" to see news and instead yourself watching some "Entertainment Tonight" type of crap or, worse, that Nancy Grace character
Not a chance Headline News's entertainment magazine type shows attract about one-and-a-half times the audience that their, "Around the World in 30 Minutes" format did, and the slimey evening shows can more than double the audiences of their predecessors if there is a particularly scandalous story unfolding.
 
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AntAltMike said:
Were we getting "just the facts" prior to Walter Cronkite delivering his editorial questioning our continued involvement in the Vietnam War?
No, nor were Americans getting "just the facts" when we were drawn into the Spanish-American War. Wikipedia's entry on Yellow journalism puts the current situation into perspective.

But my favorite American journalism tidbit is The New York Sun's Great Moon Hoax in 1835:
The Great Moon Hoax was a series of six articles that were published in the New York Sun beginning on August 25, 1835, about the supposed discovery of life on the Moon. The discoveries were falsely attributed to Sir John Herschel, perhaps the best-known astronomer of his time. According to legend, the New York Sun's circulation increased dramatically because of the hoax and remained permanently greater than before, thereby establishing the New York Sun as a successful paper. However, the degree to which the hoax increased the paper's circulation has certainly been exaggerated in popular accounts of the event. It was not discovered to be a hoax for several weeks after its publication and, even then, the newspaper did not issue a retraction.
It used to be you could check things by comparing three independent original sources. Unfortunately today, people think that means look at the web and if it appears on three or more web sites it must be true.

Mark Twain, who was a journalist himself, once said: "The reports of my death are greatly exaggerated." American journalism in his time wasn't reliable. In fact, it's never been very reliable.

The fact that "freedom of the press" is an essential in a democracy doesn't in any way assure any information we get is accurate.
 
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