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Comcast Philadelphia

Discussion in 'DIRECTV Programming' started by valleygreen22, Mar 7, 2010.

  1. Aug 1, 2013 #2261 of 2405
    sunfire9us

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    Most likely, this will get resolved no differently than what happened in San Diego. Cox cable which like Comcast refused to make a fair deal with DTV. The Padres made it clear to fans they were not happy about Cox cable and their monopolistic practices. The Padres waited till their contracts with Cox were finished and made it clear they would make their games " availiable on multiple platforms" ( this is exactly how they worded it to me in an email after I brought the subject up to them in an email message). The Phillies most likely will be thinking the same way because of money. Most likely like it was previously mentioned, a new FS Philly will re-emerge and get the tv rights. Later on, the other team will most likely join in and Comcast won't get away with carrying only one team on their channel (Flyers) and have to give in. The same is true concerning Comcast NW.The Trailblazers have already regretted their business with Comcast and will make sure to change to a different channel. It's all about waiting for existing tv contracts to end. The sports teams know it doesn't work out when these worthless cable company's refuse to make their channels avail on multiple distributors
     
  2. Aug 1, 2013 #2262 of 2405
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    Trail Blazers are on CSN NW :)
     
  3. Aug 1, 2013 #2263 of 2405
    sunfire9us

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    Trail Blazers are on CSN NW :)


    Excuse me, that's what I meant lol
     
  4. Aug 1, 2013 #2264 of 2405
    tonyd79

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    Excuse me, that's what I meant lol


    Just blame autocorrect. :)
     
  5. Aug 1, 2013 #2265 of 2405
    harperhometheater

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    Just blame autocorrect. :)
    I'm sure Comcrap will use that excuse too! :rolleyes:
     
  6. Aug 2, 2013 #2266 of 2405
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    Comcast can prevent the channel from its lineup, but it can't prevent fox from starting it, there goal would be to strike deals with directv, verizon or any other cable provider in philly market besides comcast.

    Verizon would be in the driver seat if FSN philly gets launched. Because they already have a deal with CSN so they be the only provider to offer, CSN, TCN, FSN plus they offer the sport packages in HD.

    the other thing to know is the article posted on page 113 that was released in april 2013, in march of 2013, the superme court on a vote of 5-4 ruled in favor of comcast and tossed out the lawsuit filed against them, so a big win for comcast, below is a highlight of the march 2013 decision. So Knowing the ruling and still putting out the article on page 113 and still having interest on still starting the network if they get the phillies tv rights is huge.

     
  7. Aug 3, 2013 #2267 of 2405
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    Don't the Phillies have minority ownership in CSN-Philly? If so, there's NO way they'd leave.
     
  8. Aug 3, 2013 #2268 of 2405
    sunfire9us

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    Don't the Phillies have minority ownership in CSN-Philly? If so, there's NO way they'd leave.


    You've heard the saying " money talks" and by now, it's clear Comcast has constantly refused to let CSN Philly become avail to competitors. This affects their ability to make more money on their telecasts. They have been going thru the same problems the Padres did with Cox cable. Once again, they will think twice when their tv contracts come up for renewal with Comcast
     
  9. Aug 6, 2013 #2269 of 2405
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    They allow FiOS to carry it. They are a closer competitor than Directv.
     
  10. Aug 7, 2013 #2270 of 2405
    sunfire9us

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    They allow FiOS to carry it. They are a closer competitor than Directv.


    That doesn't mean anything when you're talking another distributor in the team's territory. In order for the Philadelphia teams to get better tv deals, they will have to make sure like the Padres their tv telecasts will have to be avail on more platforms/ distributors. To sum it short- they will find themselves leaving CSN Philly
     
  11. Aug 7, 2013 #2271 of 2405
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    They used to use the satellite exemption thing to keep it off Dish and DirecTV. Couldn't do that with Fios. Not that they really see Fios as much of the competition anyway. There is precious little that fios has that Comcast doesn't and Comcast has a good amount of programming, HD, on demand, etc., in the Philly area. But, DirecTV has things fios and Comcast do not in terms of sports. NFL, better out of market sports. In short, Comcast sees DirecTV as a big challenger to their market supremacy. They do not see fios in the same light.
     
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    Be real - Verizon has CSN-Philly because they have a ton of political clout in Pennsylvania.
     
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    I believe RCN, Service Electric and Blue Ridge Cable all have CSN Philly.
     
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    This is incorrect. They could have used the same terrestrial loophole to keep it off FiOS as they could to keep it off sat. As already pointed out, though, Verizon has the same political clout (perhaps even more) than Comcast. BTW; FiOS is actually a bigger threat. This isn't just about TV, it's about broadband and marginally about phone. DirecTV is not anywhere near the threat in those regards that FiOS is.
     
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    Why do you see FIOS as a threat? Are they in a mad build out in the Philadelphia area?
     
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    Laxguy - VZ is a Philly company, and they invested heavily in FiOS in Philly. They're no longer expanding outside of the street-to-home hookup. Their internet service is beyond fantastic, and I'm considering getting FiOS because I can get CSN-Philly for $7 per month more than I'm paying now (+$11 for the settop box).
     
  17. Aug 8, 2013 #2277 of 2405
    Laxguy

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    Well, if I lived there, I probably would, too. But a big threat?? Unless they are able to get major saturation of hookups, I don't see that they are very threatening.
     
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    This is incorrect. They could have used the same terrestrial loophole to keep it off FiOS as they could to keep it off sat. As already pointed out, though, Verizon has the same political clout (perhaps even more) than Comcast. BTW; FiOS is actually a bigger threat. This isn't just about TV, it's about broadband and marginally about phone. DirecTV is not anywhere near the threat in those regards that FiOS is.


    Sorry. No. Fios is land based. They couldn't block them back in the day. Now the loophole means nothing anyway.
     
  19. Aug 9, 2013 #2279 of 2405
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    I'm sorry, but you're wrong. See also the Cablevision/MSGHD vs FiOS situation in the NYC market.

    Cablevision used the terrestrial loophole to keep MSGHD off of FiOS until the FCC dumped the loophole and Verizon filed a complaint against them. Took a long time but the FCC finally forced Cablevision to supply the channel.
     
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    I'm sorry, but you're wrong. See also the Cablevision/MSGHD vs FiOS situation in the NYC market.

    Cablevision used the terrestrial loophole to keep MSGHD off of FiOS until the FCC dumped the loophole and Verizon filed a complaint against them. Took a long time but the FCC finally forced Cablevision to supply the channel.


    Using cable vision as an example is wrong. They don't follow the rules, as proven by the FCC forcing them to allow fios to carry the channel. Comcast actually followed the rules. They used them to their best but they followed them.
     

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