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Comcast Philadelphia

Discussion in 'DIRECTV Programming' started by valleygreen22, Mar 7, 2010.

  1. Laxguy

    Laxguy Honi Soit Qui Mal Y Pense.

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    I believe the answers- or at least speculation- will be found earlier in this thread. Not surprisingly, there are differences of opinion!
     
  2. dvdmth

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    As I understand it, when Comcast offered CSN Philly to Verizon FIOS, that service was not in Philadelphia but was in parts of the broadcast territories of the Philadelphia teams, so Comcast may not have seen them as much of a threat but did see the increase in revenue from signing up FIOS. Later, when FIOS moved into Philadelphia, Comcast fought desperately to try to keep them out but ultimately failed.

    That's my understanding, anyway. Someone else may correct me if I am wrong.
     
  3. Laxguy

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    Well, someone may "correct you" even if you're right! :)
     
  4. Bambler

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    So Comcast isn't purposely holding back this channel? I haven't had the time to read through this entire thread, but from what I have read, it appears that is indeed the case, or are they just asking more than TWC Lakers' channel that DirecTV signed last year @ $4?
     
  5. inkahauts

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    What I don't understand is why did Comcast give FiOS access to CSN but is holding back against Directv? Isn't FiOS a bigger competitor given that it is land based and also offers internet service? Was Comcast forced to provide CSN to FiOS?


    Ah no. They aren't really.

    And in the end its about money. Verizon's deal wouldn't cost the same as DIRECTV.


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  6. dminches

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    Why aren't they competitors? Where I live you have the choice of both. This is true throughout the Philadelphia region.


    Why not?



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  7. KyL416

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    CSN Philly's territory isn't limited to just Philadelphia or the Philadelphia DMA, it's most of Pennsylvania, Delaware, Southern New Jersey and Northern Maryland. FiOS TV doesn't cover all those areas while DirecTV and Dish is available to anyone with a clear shot of the southwestern sky.
     
  8. dminches

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    But it is only a matter of time before FIOS is everywhere. Plus, there are a lot of apartment buildings that don't have Diectv but do have FiOS. Either way, Comcast is losing market share to FiOS in this area.
     
  9. KyL416

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    Verizon stopped building out the FiOS network about three years ago, the only new areas that will get it are areas part of existing franchise agreements that have yet to be built out. Everyone else will be stuck with DSL unless Verizon decides to sell more of those systems to someone like Frontier or Fairpoint.
     
  10. tonyd79

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    Not forced but couldn't (or at least didn't try) to hide behind the satellite exclusion.
     
  11. tonyd79

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    Everywhere where? You mean Philly? Fios has stopped its overall build out program. They are not going beyond what they currently have in the planning stages.
     
  12. dminches

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    I didn't realize they stopped their build out program since I see new installations (underground work) in my area all the time.

    Either way, FiOS is in enough locations to have eaten away at Comcast's monopoly in this area. I switched from Comcast to FiOS for my internet when it came in the area as did many others.
     
  13. inkahauts

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    You also need to realize that the channel would be available in the sorts package which would also cost DIRECTV money. That would be national coverage,although it would lacking major sports, it'd carry all the other stuff.

    Verizon doesn't have anywhere near the coverage DIRECTV has. And they never will for this channel. Its all about money. Comcast is also far more afraid of how many people they'd lose to DIRECTV over FIOS because of things like Sunday ticket, etc. more people would likely leave them for DIRECTV than will for FIOS even if they did have the same coverage, in terms of sports fans who'd watch that channel.

    Pus I wouldn't be surprised if FIOS didn't overpay for that channel compared to what DIRECTV and dish would ever pay, simply because they felt they had to have it in that market to be successful in the long run.


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  14. tonyd79

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    +100%
     
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    coolman302003

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    CSN Philly HD feed is available to us LP subscribers out of market tonight (754-1). Game isn't going very good for the Sixers though ... :eek:


    UPDATE: Feed was left on till 9:58PM EST, turned off immediately following post game show.
     
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    Jake34

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    I have seen all the sixer games this past week with no blackouts. I suppose if I were to get NBA League Pass I would then get blacked out. That happened one year with the MLB package and the Phillies. Do they waive blackout rule during free week just to trick you in to subscribing?
     
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    damondlt

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    Actually that's not true. Verizon is currently working on installing Fiber lines in Northeastern pa , Wayne county area to be exact. They have stopped adding DSL customers while the process is taking place.

    Heard it right from the horses mouth.
     
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    They haven't stopped. They slowed way down and now are picking back up. they are all over Wayne country right now upgrading to fiber lies, How long , who knows? could be next year could be 2 years.
     
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    tonyd79

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    Slow, stopped. Most people don't realize that glass is a liquid. It still moves but so slowly that it barely matters.
     
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    Adamv2

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    What directv should do is tell comcast to offer the channel at a fair price, or otherwise they will join in the bidding for the Phillies TV rights next yr (or whenever they're up), which will drive up the cost several millions.

    Or they could just try to win the rights themselves, and start up root sports Philly.
     

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