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Comparing the HR10-250, HR20-100/700, HR21-700 and ViP622/722

Discussion in 'DIRECTV HD DVR/Receiver Discussion' started by tfederov, Aug 18, 2007.

  1. Aug 19, 2007 #21 of 208
    Milominderbinder2

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    I did not add any more comparison items but refortmated a bit and expanded some wording.

    The reformated cells are in red.

    For your consideration.

    - Craig

    edit: attachment removed. New version posted later.
     
  2. Aug 19, 2007 #22 of 208
    BruceS

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    Hacks can implement MRV on the HR10, but this can only be done with software versions up to 6.3d.

    Version 6.3e, which has just been released, seems to have the MRV portion of the code removed.

    I have not tried MRV on either version myself. The above is just from information posted on dvr playground and dvr upgrade\forums.
     
  3. Aug 19, 2007 #23 of 208
    tfederov

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    I like it and I'll use that one to run with. Making tweaks right now. I'm thinking of changing Dual Live Buffer to just Live Buffer: Tivo - Two, 30 min ea. HR20-100 - One, 90 min. HR20-700 - One, 90 min.

    Doesn't Dish have two HD DVRs now (722 I think)?

    For phone line... it's not required for the HR20 other than PPV. Would that technically make phone "Yes"? I'll go with the crowd on this one because I can see the reasoning from both sides.
     
  4. Aug 19, 2007 #24 of 208
    tfederov

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    Version 4 posted for review (in first post).
     
  5. Aug 19, 2007 #25 of 208
    say-what

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    Y'all have covered just about all that I used and can recall about the HR10. The HR10 doesn't have network support enabled, so no MRV, no music & pics, no remote scheduling - although there is a hack that enables network support that exists in the code but is disabled.
     
  6. Aug 19, 2007 #26 of 208
    tfederov

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    I'm thinking we keep this to the "stock" information. There's tons of hacks out there for the TiVo and I'm sure we'll someday find hacks (okay, maybe not :D ) for the HR20 as well.
     
  7. Aug 19, 2007 #27 of 208
    tonyd79

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    No physical limit. Just performance gets slower with bigger lists.
     
  8. Aug 19, 2007 #28 of 208
    tfederov

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    Thanks, Tony. I put in there (v4) no max.
     
  9. Aug 19, 2007 #29 of 208
    Milominderbinder2

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    Tony,

    This is just great!

    I would say that the next step is to rough in the Dish columns and post a thread over there asking for help:

    ViP622/ViP722 DVR Support Forum

    You can keep one copy of your xls page by just giving them your link like this:

    DVRs Side by Side v4.xls

    The link will need to be updated every time you replace the xls sheet.

    I would also suggest PMing the Dish thread to some of the top Dish guys to make sure they see it.

    Allen Noland
    Chris Blount
    harsh
    Jason Nipp
    Mark Lamutt
    Mike Johnson
    Rob Glasser
    Ron Barry

    As a starting point, Ron Barry has done their Tips & Tricks. Rob Glasser calls himself the ViP622 DVR guy.

    I bet in 24 hours, we will all learn a ton about how the HR20 compares to the 622 and 722.

    One really big 622 feature is that it can do Picture in Picture showing both tuners on screen at once or separate broadcasts on two different TVs.

    Here is a 622 feature summary:

    622.pdf

    I would be happy to help with any part. Just let me know.

    - Craig
     
  10. Aug 19, 2007 #30 of 208
    tfederov

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    I'm over getting my fantasy league on now but once I'm done I'll brave the enemy territory and see if those guys can help out on this.
     
  11. Aug 19, 2007 #31 of 208
    Milominderbinder2

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    Here is a rough draft of adding the Dish Products to the spreadsheet.

    - Craig
    Edit: Attachment deleted. See more recent draft.
     
  12. Aug 19, 2007 #32 of 208
    tfederov

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    Olive branch sent. Let's see what happens....
     
  13. Aug 19, 2007 #33 of 208
    jayerndl

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    I'm not sure that this has been covered but the Dish unit only has 1 OTA tuner. However you can record 3 shows at once (2 - sat and 1 - OTA) vs. 2 for the HR20.

    Jay
     
  14. Aug 19, 2007 #34 of 208
    tfederov

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    I'm not going to change the one in the first thread until we're done making changes. Once we're all happy we can pull all attachments except for the final in the first post.

    Edit: Removed v5 from this post.
     
  15. Aug 19, 2007 #35 of 208
    Milominderbinder2

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    I got in down to one page front and back...

    Again, great work. I will delete all of my other versions above.

    edit: A little more clean-up now included...

    - Craig
    edit: intermediate file attachment deleted
     
  16. Aug 19, 2007 #36 of 208
    tfederov

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    Tons of thanks to everyone. v6 has been posted to the first post of this thread.
     
  17. Aug 20, 2007 #37 of 208
    hoopsbwc34

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    One limitation on the Dish DVRs that has kept me away is one OTA tuner. You can't record two OTA programs at once... however, you can record three shows at once with 2 SAT and one OTA...
     
  18. Aug 20, 2007 #38 of 208
    Coffey77

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    Under the "Expandable" section, just curious, why is the Dish one highlighted? I would expect, if any, that the HR20 be highlighted because it can be upgraded to a higher level than only 750GB. Aren't people reporting over 1TB? :)
     
  19. Aug 20, 2007 #39 of 208
    Coffey77

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    Another thought. Instead of putting the receiver model numbers at the beginning of each new Section - just once at the top and maybe once at the bottom?
     
  20. Aug 20, 2007 #40 of 208
    MikeR

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    Want to put the CPU and processing chip #'s and specs for each receiver? Some techies like that.
     

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