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Comparing the HR10-250, HR20-100/700, HR21-700 and ViP622/722

Discussion in 'DIRECTV HD DVR/Receiver Discussion' started by tfederov, Aug 18, 2007.

  1. Aug 20, 2007 #41 of 208
    Stuart Sweet

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    Tony and Craig (and all..)

    I included a PDF version in the original post. What can I say guys, fantastic work!
     
  2. Aug 20, 2007 #42 of 208
    mtnagel

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    I never had the HR10, but I did have an SD Directivo. Does it really have one touch recording? With the SD Directivo, if you press the record button, you still had to confirm, right? I actually haven't used a Tivo in quite a few months, so maybe I'm not remembering correctly.
     
  3. Aug 20, 2007 #43 of 208
    tfederov

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    I never count the confirmation. I guess technically it's two touch but that may be a judgement call. What does everyone else think? Does a confirmation count as another "push"?
     
  4. Aug 20, 2007 #44 of 208
    pete4192

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    Thanks for the info, Tony. This will be nice to give to friends trying to decide between E* and D*.
     
  5. Aug 20, 2007 #45 of 208
    mtnagel

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    Ah. Why not put what you put for the Dish one's then, "Yes (2nd button confirms)"? Or is that something different?
     
  6. Aug 20, 2007 #46 of 208
    Milominderbinder2

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    I say that "One Touch Recording" has to be really that: one touch. "One Touch" is the key to that feature. The Dish units do not offer one touch recording.

    I do think that we should add an item for One Touch Guide. For Dish that is how it works. For the HR20 that is just an undocumented option.

    Is the one touch Guide even an option for the HR10?

    One Touch Guide
    HR10 - Option?
    HR20 - Option
    Dish - Standard Feature

    - Craig
     
  7. Aug 20, 2007 #47 of 208
    Stuart Sweet

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    If the HR10 is like any other TiVo, wouldn't it always have one-touch guide?
     
  8. Aug 20, 2007 #48 of 208
    jmschnur

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    I believe the HR20 series enables digital audio to be carried over HDMI in addition to optical toslink.
     
  9. Aug 20, 2007 #49 of 208
    Milominderbinder2

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    That should be added...
    Good catch. You are right...
    There needs to be a header bar for each section so why not include the models in it?
    Someone wanting that much detail will be doing their own spreadsheet that would be 20 pages instead of 2. Also, once you open that Pandora's box, what chips don't you list out? I would say to use the Wife Test. Have your wife say if it is the right info for her to decide what to buy. Other than the few active in this forum, I bet most just want to know if it will do what they want.

    - Craig
     
  10. Aug 20, 2007 #50 of 208
    Milominderbinder2

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    Tony,

    I added in the additional request items from this and the companion Dish threads. I also made a few more tweaks to the formating. It still fits on one page back to back.

    What do you think?

    - Craig
     
  11. Aug 20, 2007 #51 of 208
    tfederov

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    I like it. I especially like the disclaimer at the bottom. Is there a chance a mod can take his v7 and put it in my opening post?
     
  12. Aug 20, 2007 #52 of 208
    jheda

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    great job Tony...ok you can take one game from us next weekend..:)
     
  13. Aug 20, 2007 #53 of 208
    Stuart Sweet

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    The latest changes have been incorporated into the original post (again). Happy to help.
     
  14. Aug 20, 2007 #54 of 208
    tfederov

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    Please don't kill me... :blush:

    Got more input from the DISH folks. 11 is up. There might be a version 12, 13, etc. based on their feedback.
     
  15. Aug 20, 2007 #55 of 208
    Thaedron

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    Thanks for the offer to help out. I got Craig's message just as we were heading out of town on vacation.

    The spreadsheet looks awesome!

    One of the questions Criag posed to me was regarding the FF speeds. I thought the 3rd speed on the HR10 was 16x, but I can't find anything to confirm.

    I agree with your choice to include "hacks" that are simple key-sequence enabled, but not on more elaborate ones.

    One (minor) thing I noted when reading through the spreadsheet is that the channels available is more of a provider distinction than an equipment distinction, though the list is becoming a bit of both.

    The CIR treatment of the HR20 seems a little generous given the enormous PITA bug that exists with the feature.

    Other than those notes, I think everything is great. I'm honored to have been requested to participate. Thanks and keep up the great work, this is a truly amazing community.
     
  16. Aug 20, 2007 #56 of 208
    tfederov

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    The number for the speed (16x for example) to me is kind of hard to measure so I left them at 3 speeds and 4 speeds (call me lazy :D ). With the available channels it sort of does matter, especially with the HR10-250 in the mix since it'll never grow in HD channels. Maybe once we reach steady state with the spreadsheet and the TiVo drops off we can lose that one. For now though, HR10-250 owners looking for info and options if they decide to leave DIRECTV might appreciate this.

    CIR may be generous but technically speaking using a favorites is a viable workaround.

    Appreciate the input! Hope you had a good vacation!
     
  17. Aug 21, 2007 #57 of 208
    Milominderbinder2

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    DrrD

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    Only 1 sat input on the Vip622/722? But the picture on the review (sorry I can't post the link, it's on the home page) clearly shows 2.
     
  19. Aug 21, 2007 #59 of 208
    Coffey77

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    Stuart Sweet

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    v11 PDF is now in the original post.
     

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