Well, since I jumped into this boat, I feel compelled to help paddle! Where to start? To lazaruspup: I disagree. I don't think they would. I wouldn't. It's not my job and certainly not my right to condemn you. That's between you and Jesus. Whether or not you have accepted Him as your personal Savior is a separate issue from your lifestyle choices, just like everyone else. I can tell you what the Bible says about your lifestyle, but I wouldn't do it in an un-Christ-like manner. Casting stones is not my right. Now I might or might not want my kids spending a lot of time with you, but I believe you made that point yourself. I have the duty as a parent to point out to my kids the Biblical truths that show certain choices to be wrong, and also to point out the Biblical truths that show them the Way to Heaven. But it is NEVER my right to condemn you or anyone else to Hell. To Bogy: I, too, consider myself an "evangelical" Christian. (Not even sure what a "conservative fundamentalist Christian" is ) I agree the term has been thrown around here way too loosely without much knowledge of its meaning. I also agree with your quoted definition, except for this part: My Baptist brain considers this very VAGUE. To jonstad: Yes, I'm sure THAT discussion was beat to death LONG before I came here. I have to agree with you, but I haven't looked up the definition of "mandate" lately. If I remember right from Latin class, it has something to do with having something "handed" to you. I had to cringe every time they got on the news and bragged about having a mandate. Yes, "WE" won, but it still seemed a bit too proud. My point was merely that there were quite a few races and decisions that seemed to go the way of the Republicans and our values, instead of to the democrats. However, I couldn't help but bust out laughing every time I turned on the news the morning after and saw those "news" anchors with the puzzled looks on their faces! !rolling [BTW, in case anybody cares, I've voted straight Republican ever since I was 18. Granted, I may oversimplify things, but I believe this party holds MOST of my values MOST of the time, and to vote for any less-prominent candidate is tantamount to giving a vote to "the other side". Case in point: H. Ross PEE-ROW. (Why did anybody vote for that little man?? He's annoying as hell!! I grew up in TX and couldn't stand him!!! :icon_stup )] I agree IN PART, BUT I think most Christians will agree that God has ALLOWED our nation to prosper (through hard work!) BECAUSE this nation was founded on Biblical (notice I didn't even say "Christian") principles (e.g., The Ten Commandments), and BECAUSE so many of us acknowledge Him and make our voices heard as a witness, BUT if we start to lay silent about our beliefs then He will ALLOW this nation to eventually dissolve, as so many others have. But I believe there are a lot of Christians who try to "share" their beliefs in an inappropriate manner. And to pjmr("Whatchu talkin' 'bout, fool?")t: I MUST respectfully request (POLITELY, as some of you may remember I promised I would ) that you go back and correct this capitalization error. I personally find it highly offensive, especially coming from someone I presume to be a Christian (even jonstad uses correct capitalization, thanks jonstad! ), and therefore could not let it slide. :nono: Sorry! Thanks!