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Discussion in 'General DISH™ Discussion' started by geoff, Jan 31, 2011.
You'll get less HD from Comcast for sure.
Well I would guess you could go elsewhere and buy Starz for a year,or stay with Dish Network and get Starz free for 1 year.
One of the biggest advantages of the EHD with Dish DVR's is you never have to worry about anybody in a house hold, of deleting your shows. Your EHD is your personal DVR that can be watched on any other DVR in the house or on laptop in your house using the Sling Adapter. Dish Sling will do both live TV as well as recording, which is another reason the family wants it. Plus when we go traveling we can pack up a EHD with shows we want and watch them while traveling on on those evenings when is stormy and rainy and can't be outside enjoying the fire. Not to mention the fact you can backup the EHD and when you get a new one, or if something happens to your existing EHD, you can restore to the New EHD, and all the shows are still there.
Watching habits are different for everybody. PiP button gets worn out during football season here. Autotunes are a Daily feature, everybody in the house has a few of them, great for shows/movies you want to watch, but don't need to record, and you don't have to delete 15-20 timers every time you leave on vacation. DLB is in constant use in all 5 houses in the family that use Dish, its really useful since it doesn't get wipe out by accident. Lots of times I will have both Tuners Buffered, and swapping in between them, to avoid all commercials on both tuners.
If you get OTA, being able to record 3 or 4 different shows, is just great. Several times a week I have 3 recordings going on, of shows I have no interest in watching, and can use the 2nd Sat tuner to surf with, and watch shows I want to since the wife and kids are gone or doing something else.
As I coach Soccer instead of having to record an entire game, I can rewind a play and record from the rewind point, and have several 1-5 minute recordings vs having to have 6 90 minute games to just show a play or two.
MRV is a nice feature, just couldn't see giving up several features that are used daily, and even more advanced features that allow you to use the DVR to its full potential and not just a recording device.
Am I the only one who thinks this thread is going no where? Each of the three services is best for some but none is best for all. It depends on our personal preferences.
I'll take on the Comcast info. I am temporarily using Comcast and I have HD and the latest receivers and converters.
IMHO, The biggest loss is the convenient program guide that Dish provides on each of your sets. With Comcast, you get different receivers or converters, each with a huge variation in program info...some with none. I am now forced to using the newspaper.
The remotes on the HD and DVR converters are troublesome, you cannot control the TV (at least not mine) seperately like the Dish remote. Also, the Comcast DVR remote is not very friendly. You can fast forward and rewind but not in handy 10 or 30 second segments. You get either 5 minutes ahead/behind, 30 seconds back, or a full FF or RW and hope you stop at the right spot. And "Pause" isn't very quick, it just eventually stops.
My next concern is channel numbering. Dish gives you the proper local channel number in either SD or HD. With Comcast, I need to know that local channel 20 really comes out at channel 5, and channel 31 shows at 13. Then extend that logic with HD where channel 5 (really 20) is 705 in HD, and 13 (really 31) is at 713 in HD. This is an improvement your market may not yet enjoy. Until recently HD channels were on random places in the 600-700 range...really dumb.
Comcast has a few advantages, but the OP was looking for what he would lose with Comcast.
I actually think that this is a great thread and I appreciate everyone's input. The only quesiton I have is...does anyone have a list of DBStalk acronyms?? EHD ?
External Hard Drive.
The link on the homepage Acronyms (although that one isn't listed - many are)
I want to thank everyone for their input.
A couple of people asked why I was thinking of switching, well, I've been out of work for 6 months and new customer promos would help with the cash flow in the house.
I've done a bunch of research, but finding anything on the comcast or Direct TV websites about functionality of their DVR's is a challenge.
Also, after having one provider for what seems like forever, you loose track of what is a feature vs what is a normal expectation of service. For instance, I did not know that Direct TV DVR's did not have an RF out on their HD receivers, That would be a big deal. I learned that you cannot record 2 Sat and OTA on direct TV receivers, this too is a big deal. So to not have to invest in additional equipment to get what I get with 1 722 receiver, it looks like I'm staying for a while.
Thanks for everyone's input.
Now do know if you own your receiver you don't have to have a package?.You can have locals only or HBO only you just had to pay an access fee of $6. plus the price of the programming you want.Dish Network has got to be the most versatile satellite service of all of them because of all the options that are available to the Dish Network subscriber.That's one great option during hard times,and when people ask me why am I a Dish Network subscriber?.I tell them of the many options you have with Dish Network.
The devil is in the details, as you found out Geoff. I can fully understand your desire to reduce your cash outlay each month, it is a real concern for lots of us.
I keep getting some great offers from D* to come back, including paying my ETF if I did. But I would need 3 HR24 HDDVRs from D* to do what I do on a fairly regular basis. 2 of them in my viewing room and one for my son's. That would be a significant upfront cash requirement which would negate the savings on the very good deal on the programming. And then I would still miss BBCA and AMC in HD, two channels that I watch quite often.
If you're going to stay and money is still an issue, just look at the various packages to see what makes the most sense for your viewing preferences. Maybe a Dish America package could fill the bill for you.
I stand corrected and now see the value of this thread. Sorry for my short-sighted response above. :eek2:
Since cost is an issue, I would say to take a close look at your bill and decide what is really important. Do you have extra receivers that are only occasionally used? Are you subscribing to a level of service because you always have and can you cut back from 250 to 200 or even 150? Can you get your locals over the air and give up the OTA recording.
I recently found that I could ditch my 1.5 Mbps DSL and POTS phone that were costing me +$80/mo with all the calling features I had and get VOIP with ATT U-Verse internet at 12 Mbps for $65/mo. That allowed me to stream Netflix at full HD for less than $10/mo and drop back from Dish 250 to Dish 200. Not big savings but more selection at no cost increase.
I too would like to extend my thanks; I have been with D* since '94 and yet here I am looking for options. My biggest gripe right now is the horridly slow and unintuitive HR20 I have had for 8 years. I tend to stick with what works and for years D* has worked ; however, I think that it's a good time to look around and see what's out there. This thread really helps.
I also found this link that for others on the fence, might find helpful
Just an FYI, the HR20 hasn't been out for 8 years, IIRC it was relased late summer/early fall of 2006.
That's true. But so is the fact that the rest of the HRs, with the exception of the HR24 are slower than the HR20.
I stand corrected, it just seems like it's been 8 years
I switched a few months ago. To me it is like cell phone carriers. Get the bast deal you can for a time period then shop again when your contract is up.
Saving lots of money. Leased HD DVR and my own internal distribution of HDMI I can drop any device in and watch it.
If you do switch be sure to take advantage of the refer a friend as you both save 10 bucks a month for a year. A very good deal.
Lots of people here are obsessed with the UI. I just care about watching HD. And storing it. So I take my 2T esata drive and record away (for no fee).
No other company (Dish or Direct) care about keeping customers once contract is up. Otherwise they would be competitive.
Comcast's DVRs aren't very good.
I REALLY would like to switch to one of the Direct deals, but I think I couldn't stand losing the External HD capacity (or all the movies recorded). I'd be switching from Absolute ($30) to at least $60 for something close if I stayed with Dish ($50 for 12 months), the Direct $35 deal right now is just as close to all the Absolute channels. I just need to decide if the EHD is worth $20+ per month.... probably not!