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Discussion in 'DISH™ High Definition Discussion' started by shappy, Jul 3, 2007.
If I'm not mistaken, if you "own" your equipment, you can subscribe to HD only, for 29.95 a month.
Have the AT200 (dvr advantage w/locals & dvr fee), believe it's 49.99 a month + the hd pack for $20, then a lease fee for the 622, $6 a month. That's a nice thought to downsize to top 100 but the channels we watch aren't in there.
Just have to accept the fact that with a bundled lineup, you don't always get the shows you want in the least expensive bundle. I figger if it ever gets to the point that $20 a month (for the hd pack in this example) is not affordable, then I'd need to seriously consider dropping pay tv (whether it's cable, sat, fios, etc) and go back to pre-dvr (and vcr) times. When more of the "presumed" networks are offered in hd (History, Sci Fi, etc) I would certainly be receptive to watching the recent programming that was shot in hd, I've gotten spoiled by the picture and just don't wanna watch it in sd More hd channels would make the $20 monthly fee seem like it's "worth it", I can understand wanting to "get what you pay for".
The 622 is leased so that's not an option, that is interesting to know, might be useful info for others who do own their 622. I'm still licking my wounds from the 921 purchase........:nono2:
The top 100 + locals for $34.99 is no longer offered. You have to have top
100+ locals plus RSN for $39.99. So the cheapest HD package that Dish
offers with locals is $59.99 or $60 a month plus HD receiver fee and
DVR fee or $72 a month for a 622.
I know this for a fact because when I signed up for Fios, I downgraded form
America's Everything Pak, locals and HD to the cheapest Dish package with two 622s until my 18 month commitment expires. Then I dropped one of the 622s
because I had to sign up for basic cable to get MLB EI.
I have been over and over this with Dish Network customer service.
The cheapest HD package with locals and a 622 is $72 a month. Without
locals it is $62 a month.
You haven't been over and over it enough. You can get AT100 ($29.99), DishHD ($20) and locals ($5) for $54.99. Locals are available with any programming package. DishHD requires AT100 or higher. Obviously, VOD service fees (the Dish Network internal name for DVR fees), lease fees and extra receiver fees will add to the bottom line.
If you demand additional services (ie RSN), additional charges will apply.
Thats not true at all - though the cable HD PQ depends on the location you are in. In my case Comcast was definitely as good as - if not better than - the best E* has to offer.
I switched from Comcast to E* mainly because of VOOM. And it is well worth it.
Very true. That is why I would suggest a la carte - all the way.
Infact I think this whole idea of "channels" is obsolete. What we need is VOD for evrything other than live feeds.
But until then, I'd rather have more HD channels to choose from than less.
I’ve still got my E* and D* dishes up, care to come over with an active receiver and compare? I’ve done A-B comparisons between TW and D*, TW here has superior picture quality. Much less pixilated, especially the movie channels.
I pay $4.95 for three HD channels, get another 15 at no additional cost and then HBO HD and Showtime HD. So 20 HD channels total.
I believe that was discontinued as of 2/1/07. I recall seeing something about it recently.
You are Incorrect.
I have one vip 622 receiver. Only watching on one TV. Below is my charges for the month of June. I am thinking about leaving dish because I think I am being overcharged.
Jun 25 - Jul 24 America's Top 100 with Locals 34.99
Leased Receiver Fee 6.00
DISH Network DVR Service Fee 5.98
Atlanta GA Locals 5.99
DISH Home Protection Plan (DHPP) 5.99
Programming Access Fee 5.00
I would agree that you're being overcharged because it appears that you're paying twice for locals.
No to both, I don't like making someone rich nor did I fail math in school.
1. Who would go to the trouble and work to start a business if they didn't hope to make it big.
2. I went back to school after many years between graduating high school and going back to continue my education. I graduated in 1998 with honors. All the different math courses I passed with an A. I remember 1 english course with a B that dragged my GPA down or I'd have been 4.0 GPA at graduation.
3. Value isn't money only. The lowest price that doesn't provide what I want is useless. I do watch the Voom channels. I just watched a show that was recorded from a Voom channel last night before leaving for work. Having a 10 A.M. start and a 5 minute drive makes life easier. BTW it recorded fine despite the thunderstorms.
Bottom line for me is that Dishnetwork is the best value since it gives me what I want.
Cable modem is giving me 18 to 23 mb throughput. Close enough to FIOS speed and it was a much simpler install. I self installed. It didn't work. Cable repair came fixed wires outside the house and it now works. Sonce I want to keep my copper phone lines Fios is not a option. When my power goes out it may be a short lived outage or it may be days long. But my old technology phones keep on working. I still have the old Western Electric Rotary dial hooked up in the basement on the workbench. If it isn't broke don't fix it works for me.
:rant: I feel sorry for those people where everything is about cost not quality.
Quality of life is important to me. I had offers to go work in the big apple. Trade in a 5 minute non rush hour drive for a 2+ hour on way comute just to make more money. Have to deal with the noise, crowding, Air quality? No thank you, even though I'd have tripled my income I passed.
If I can afford it then I eat steak, if money is tight then a Chopped steak or a premium brand of hot dogs. I Use butter not margarine. Olive oil or corn oil not rapeseed oil (Canola oil). OTOH with a 5 minute drive to work the car I bought new in 1988 is fine. 1 tank of gas a month.
I'm going through life and I want to enjoy it and not be lying there dying saying to myself I wish I hadn't pinched every penny and used the lowest grade of everything. :beatdeadhorse:
Paying twice for locals plus it appears you got your 622 via a lease upgrade program where the 1st receiver lease isn't rolled in to the package price. Connecting a phone line would save you $5 (but getting a phone line to connect can cost much more).
The Top 100 with locals is now $39.99. You have to get an RSN to get locals.
So 34.99 plus 5.98 is an overcharge of 98 cents. I would drop the home
protection plan if they are charging you for the $6.00 lease fee.
With one VIP 622 I am being charged the following for AT100 without locals.
America's Top 100 29.99
Leased Receiver Fee 6.00
DISH Network DVR Service Fee 5.98
I have my VIP 622 plugged into a phone line. If you only have one phone line in
your house, you can buy a splitter jack from Radio Shack that plugs into where
your phone line plugs into the wall jack. You can plug both your regular phone
and your VIP 622 into this splitter jack. Just get a 25 foot phone extension cord or
whatever lengh you need, to run from your 622 to the jack. The 622 is contacted
by Dish every night about 3:00AM to check if your phone line is connected. So
having the phone line on your main phone will not cause any problems. Many
people do not understand this and Dish does not explain it.
If you do not have a phone line in your house and only use your cell phone,
you will have to pay $5 per month.
That remains incorrect. You do not have to subscribe to AT100+ to get locals.
You can get $29.99 AT100 and add locals for a total of $34.99.
RSNs are NOT required to get locals!
Sorry that you have such a thin skin, but programming choice is number one
in selecting a multivideo provider. So if the Voom programming is important to
you, then you should stay with Dish, unless you live in Cablevision's territory.
Then you should look at Cablevision, if Cablevision has all the channels that you
require, and you are using their cable modem.
My number one reason to switch to Verizon was programming. Verizon provides
me with three RSNs in HD that Dish does not provide in either HD or SD to me.
I originally signed up with Dish because I was an out of market sports fan who
could not get any Philadelphia professional sports programming. Dish provided
me with Philadelphia professional sports programming through MLB EI,
NBA League Pass and NHL Center Ice. But after my first year with NBA League
Pass, Dish stopped providing the HD version. Then Dish stopped providing
MLB EI this year. So I live in a baseball hotbed, but Dish cannot provide me
with any professional baseball at all, except what was on FOX that I get in
crystal clear OTA HD, ESPN HD and ESPN 2 HD which Verizon also provides and cable provides and Dish gave me SD local baseball broadcasts that I picked up
OTA in crystal clear HD. Now Verizon was providing the sports content that
I used to get SD from Dish by subbing to league packages, in stunning HD for
less money. So it was a no brainer to go to Verizon.
Regarding price, Dish is the most expensive HD provider in Central NJ. That is
a fact that only Dish can change by lowering prices!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I paid Dish $137 a month plus I had to keep Patriot Media for $73 a month so that I could get two HD RSNs and INHD (which provided three HD baseball games a week last year). I also had Patriot Media for Internet which was $48 a month for 7/1 cable modem.
With Verizon, I am paying $101 a month for TV, $40 a month for 20/5 Internet
and $30 a month for telephone with unlimited long distance. Plus I signed
up for Patriot Media limited cable with two HD set top boxes for $29 a month,
so that I can continue to sub to MLB EI. Also Patriot Media limited cable provides
all Princeton University and Rutgers mens and womens basketball which I watch,
and when Comcast takes over Patriot later this year, I will get CN8 which
provides Philadelphia Big Five basketball. I am sure that Comcast will continue
Princeton and Rutgers basketball. Limited basic cable also will allow me
to sign up for NBA League Pass and get NBA TV in HD. Cable MLB EI has the
MLB HD channel which has more HD games per week than I got last season
with INHD and Dish MLB EI combined.
So now I am paying $130 a month for two TV providers (Verizon and basic
cable) $40 a month for 20/5 Internet which is far superior to cable Internet
and $30 a month for telephone. Total $200 a month.
I used to pay $210 a month for just TV and I did not get all the programming
that was available, and I wanted, in Central NJ. So my old total cost was
$210 for TV, $48 for cable modem and about $48 for phone or $306 total.
So I am saving over $100 a month and have the programming that I want.
Regarding the copper wiring, I would not worry about it. If you start worrying
about stuff like that, you will start worrying about the sky falling in. Verizon
provides a back up battery to keep your phone lines working in case their is
a power failure and you probably have a cell phone.
When I downgraded from AEP to 100, the DISH CSR told me that locals
for $5.99 cannot be added to Dish 100 anymore. This is the current offer:
Please note that the current offer says the following:
AMERICA'S TOP 100 PLUS (WITH LOCALS)
Try the Dish Builder ... pick AT100 and add locals for $5. I your CSR said that they were wrong ... Locals CAN be added to AT100 for only $5 (the $5.99 price only applies to people without an AT or qualifying minimum package).