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Discussion in 'DIRECTV General Discussion' started by BenJF3, Nov 11, 2008.
Except that the bulk of DirecTV's PPV is delivered over broadband.
They should do it because otherwise people will start to move to other devices that are enabled with Netflix and similar features like Hulu, YouTube, etc. That box then becomes a competitor to DirecTV. I'm sure they could work out some sort of revenue sharing.
As always, if the $ is right for all parties concerned, then there can be a deal.
With Xbox and Tivo coming on board with Netflix Streaming you know there already is some sort of revenue sharing going on, either one time set up or a pennies per view.
With the current and ever quickly expanding content availble through the Netflix Player I could easily see some of the market share for premium channels (excluding those that have original content programing/series) being taken away by Netflix. Why pay for a channel that consistanley plays the same movies day after day for a month when for the same or less price you can instantley watch soemthing you want on the Netflix Player. Additionally if you have seen the last wave of content expansion you are aware Netflix is using a library from Starz on Demand.
I think if D* had the opportunity to do so, this would be an excellent opportunity to take that revenue sharing and capture the market share that will be lost from premium channels to Netflix.
I have the Roku Player and fully enjoy it. I bought into it when it first came out with limited content and always found something to watch and now with Starz content the library is even larger. The coming HD content which will be a premium to stream (from what I have been told) will even add to the options. With that said I would enjoy having one less piece of equipment eating electricity in my home and tiding up my entertainment center and would buy into that in a heart beat if D* offered it to me.
Could they: YES!
Will they: unlikely - as others have stated NetFlix will distract from PPV, although they very well know some users are already doing this using the Media Share feature. Its not exactly a hole they can plug as that is done from the remote server.
One thing that could be considered is adding the functionality for lets say the price of a PPV $3.99 or 4.99 movie per month. This would bring back some revenue from people that will no longer pay for PPV with the unreasonable 24 hour limit.
I buy dvds so I won't pay for PPV or Netflix.
That is fine. When I initially posted, I also suggested this be an optional upgrade. IE: Like WiiWare from Nintendo, if I have a Wii and want a browser, I can buy one and download it into my console. D* could offer the option for a one time fee to people who wanted it.
Keep in mind Samsung just dropped a firmware update adding Netflix to two of it's models for free, granted these are standalone DVD units and not part of an MSO that provides pay TV.
Again, I am finding all the input interesting and I believe Netflix (and options like it) are the way of the future so it will be interesting to see how everything plays out.
i voted no, because i would rather see a system like XStreamHD, not depended on the internet. i only have 1mb dsl and would rather not upgrade(pay more $) for a faster connection if i don't have too. www.xstreamhd.com
That's an excellent point against for users whom have low bandwidth broadband or no internet. But the plus side would be the ability to opt in down the road if your situation ever changed.
Right now it doesn't matter so much to me as there are options out there. I could get a Roku box, but I was kind of hoping for a higher end BDP with it built in. Right now the LG isn't that great a player from initial reviews and the Sammy's are so-so as well. I want a unit that has Dolby True HD and DTS HD MA decoding built in so I don't have to replace my AV receiver. The Panny's are top rated right now, but no Netflix for them... yet.
I've talked to alot of people who are looking for Netflix enabled devices mainly to cut down on the clutter in the entertainment centers, as well as eating up an extra set of inputs!
Yes they should add it. I would even pay an extra $2.99 a month for it (priced assuming you also have a Netflix account0.
I doubt direct tv would ever add it for free as it would cut into there on demand profits.
? There are 100+ channels of PPV that are being provided via satellite.
Yes there is a lot of content via VOD now as well, but PPV via satellite still has a lot of offerings there (and probably is still more utilized).
Dont forget VOD ONLY works on the HR2x receivers, PPV works on just about every receiver out there.
You should always have a 3rd option in the poll -- "No preference"
Well, I figured the No, leave it as it is option kind of covered that.
I have the Roku box, and love it. Already planning on getting my parents one of the Blu-Ray players with Netflix for Christmas. Now, should DirecTV add Netflix to their boxes? I voted yes, but really what I want is the selection, quality, and instant-streaming that Netflix makes available via DirecTV On Demand. DOD is still very much in its infancy, so if using an established service like Netflix makes it "grow up" faster, then great. Otherwise, they should look at Netflix for a sense of where they need to go.
Don't get me wrong - Netflix Watch Instantly isn't perfect. Selection is better then most, but still isn't great. But the quality and instant streaming is fantastic.
The Netflix library grows every month, but the selection available for streaming is very limited. Check the new DVD releases coming out every week and see how many of them are available for streaming. Answer: close to zero. That's because they have to get permission to stream, which isn't the case for mailing out discs. And it's going to be difficult to obtain streaming rights for newer content under a flat monthly pricing model.
Another issue that is going to put a damper on streaming is bandwidth caps by ISPs:
Before long you'll get a limited amount of bandwidth for downloading and then you'll have to pay by the gigabyte for going over the limit.
ISP's are looking to cap this intentionally I believe because they are losing revenue to online services like Netflix. The main reason for me is they are charging too much for PPV movies. It used to be $3.99 not to long ago and now it's almost $5 plus another $1 if you want it in HD.
Right now, my ISP (roadrunner) isn't capping anything, but who knows what may come? I don't download much right now, just normal net traffic, but should I complete my D* upgrade and add a Netflix player, then I will certainly begin using more bandwidth. I really thing cap are starting to take place in larger urban areas where capacity is maxing out. That said, if they see a revenue stream, they will jump on it. It would be a shame as Internet access is already at a premium price and one of the most profitable items cable co's offer at $50 a month for regular (10down/1up).
Another reason is that companies like AT&T are in the TV business in addition to phone and Internet service. Charging extra for exceeding bandwidth caps puts a tariff on competitors.
Given the current discussions on the various ISP's nad monthly limit caps this all maybe a mute point. My ISP is currently talking limit caps, looking around for a decent priced business plan or a shared T1
While it would be cool, it will likely become moot soon with the cable companies putting download caps on the Internet connections. The bandwidth caps will kill the VOD/DOD/Netflix business dead, which is part of their sinister plan, leaving only your friendly cable company as the sole provider of on demand services.