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Court rejects Viacom's bid to throw out Cablevision bundling suit

Discussion in 'Cable TV Discussion' started by Athlon646464, Jun 24, 2014.

  1. Athlon646464

    Athlon646464 Gold Members DBSTalk Gold Club

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    Court rejects Viacom's bid to throw out Cablevision bundling suit

    (Fiercecable.com) - Manhattan Judge Laura Taylor Swain ruled that Cablevision has submitted ample evidence to support its anti-trust claim, which states that Viacom is coercing it to carry 14 lower rated channels, including Palladia, MTV Hits and VH1 Classics, in order to license eight "must-have" networks including Comedy Central, MTV and Nickelodeon....

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  2. KyL416

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    This suit is a joke. The stations Cablevision are singling out happen to be ones in direct competition with a certain other music channel owned by the Dolans that they were heavily pushing at the time this suit was filed. (A channel they have since given up, cancelled most of the original programming and is pending a sale) Several channels like Palladia (then MHD), Logo, Nicktoons, Tr3s and VH1 Soul were added seperately outside of the main negotiations with Viacom. Not to mention Cablevision doesn't have all of Viacom's channels, they don't have BET Gospel, BET Hip-Hop, CMT Pure Country, MTV Jams, mtvU, Nick 2 or Epix. If Viacom was really "forcing" them on providers they would have picked them up when their contract was renewed a year or two ago and the same can be said for all the other providers including Dish and DirecTV who don't have their 24/7 music video channels.

    Also don't confuse bundling with tiers. Tiers isn't the issue at all, if it were Viacom would be forcing providers to put their channels in the expanded basic. Most providers split these channels in different packages like digital, digital plus, HD, and Spanish. Getting a discount for including other channels makes sense, there's less overhead with the accounting, marketing and engineering being from the same company, compared to something like Disney Channel vs Nickelodeon who are from seperate companies with their own staffs and uplink facilities. That staff gets paid if you get Nickelodeon alone vs Nickelodeon with their digital nets. The difference is the cost is spread out amongst the other networks if you get them while Nickelodeon alone would put that cost on the one network.

    Having the digital nets also allow them to take chances programming wise, shows like Degrassi, Dance Academy, Digimon and Yu-Gi-Oh are popular, but they don't get the ratings shows like Spongebob and Sam & Cat get on the main Nickelodeon channel. And if a show underperforms on Nick, like Digimon Fusion and the last season of House of Anubis did, it can be moved to Nicktoons or TeenNick so the fans can continue to see the shows. The same can be said for MTV, VH1 and CMT, reality shows like Jersey Shore and The Real World get the ratings, while nonstop music videos can be found on their digital channels like MTV Hits, VH1 Soul and CMT Pure Country.
     
  3. Diana C

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    Whatever the motivation, this is the first time I can recall a cable company pushing back against a content provider's practice of selling channels only in groups.
     
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  4. damondlt

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    I fail to see this as a Joke.
    Maybe you like paying out the wad for crap, I'm tired of it.

    Cablevision may not have them channels you listed , but I'm sure that what cablevision is implying that Viacom will force them to carry them come contract time when Greedy Viacom wants another unjustified huge price increase.
     
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    I agree!
     
  6. KyL416

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    The contract with Cablevision was last renewed in December 2012 and there's been MULTIPLE renewals since most of those channels launched during the 90s and 00s. Not once was Cablevision forced to add these missing channels and the channels they did add were added outside of the renewal. The same goes for other providers, there's a reason why mtvU, CMT Pure Country, BET Gospel and BET Hip Hop are some of their least distrubuted channels and why none of the satellite providers carry their 24/7 music video channels.

    As for it being "crap", VH1 Classic is very popular, just because you don't enjoy something doesn't mean it's crap, people can say the same thing about channels you enjoy. Viacom doesn't even force providers to put the channels on all of their systems since providers are able to take into consideration the demos the individual system serves. (i.e. in New Hampshire where my cousins live the local Comcast system doesn't carry BET, before Cablevision launched their digital cable service CMT was limited to shared time with the leased access channel between 2am and 6am)

    The point is the channels Cablevision are singling out happen to be in direct competition with Fuse, a music channel owned by the Dolans which at the time they were trying to build up with new original programming. (Including a news show hosted by former MTV hosts)
     
  7. Pepe Sylvia

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    I always get a chuckle out of people when these things happen. They aren't doing it for YOUR benefit, they're doing it for THEIR benefit.
     
  8. Diana C

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    Of course they are, but it this suit is successful, it won't effect only the Viacom channels. Disney won't be able to link contracts for the Disney Channel, ESPN and ABC, just to name one example. This is required first step to what so many people seem to want: al a carte pricing to the viewer.
     
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