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Custom install question?

Discussion in 'General DISH™ Discussion' started by ChiefRocscooter, Feb 7, 2009.

  1. harsh

    harsh Beware the Attack Basset

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    Both RF outputs work all the time regardless of how the DVR is connected to its TV1. The component output may be disabled as necessary to support HD content protection.
     
  2. jlluck

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    I did a novel thing and actually READ the instruction manual that came with my 722 and found where to enable / disable the TV1 RF output. I enabled it and my component connection does still work. This box is simply amazing with all the options of piping out signal. I think I am in love.
     
  3. Jim5506

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    Component output is NOT disabled, it is just limited to 480p.
     
  4. SaltiDawg

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    Are you sure that Component is limited to 480P? :confused:
     
  5. jlluck

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    I'm no expert either but my Sharp LCD is telling me 1080i with my component connection. Even if it is only 480p, it looks great and I'm happy with it. Not bad for a TV located downstairs and the receiver located upstairs in a closet.
     
  6. ka8zay

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    Thats funny my TV is connected with Componet and it says its says 1080i on the info screen on my TV.
     
  7. ChiefRocscooter

    ChiefRocscooter Cool Member

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    I think he meant to say that with HD copy protection it "may" get down rez'ed to 480p. I would guess that if the hollywood people get thier way they would keep component from showing 1080i if they can since they have no way of putting copy protection on component.

    So far it looks like at least the first part of my setup will work now I just have to comfirm that a second box can be tied together with it to form a home distro network.

    Now if I could just get some input on intergrating it to MCE. Thinking of hooking to HTPC and tuning the 4 channels as "live TV" for MCE. This would allow streaming to Laptop, any PC and recording (with some obvious restrictions)
     
  8. jsk

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    If I were to have a setup like this, I would just keep the additional remote keys by each TV and you can pick an unused tuner and use the proper key. The only possible problem with that is that the remotes most likely aren't designed to have the keys changed often and may break at some point. They should just have a selector switch that allows you to change the remote on the fly.
     
  9. ChiefRocscooter

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    The remotes seem to be the most limiting part of the system but if everyone keeps thier own to use it should work. The two kids will likely keep thier remotes in thier rooms most of the time and the other two remotes will be kept in the LR and FR
     
  10. ChiefRocscooter

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    I guess at worst I can always try and pickup a few spares on EBAY if the system works and finding the remotes are a problem.
     
  11. ChiefRocscooter

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    Ok, so I made the jump and got the install done this week!!! Everything works like I thought it would!!

    Got 2 722k's and set them up in home dist setup. Channels 60/62 for TV1/TV2 of box 1 and 64/66 for Box 2. Everything works fine pictures are good on all sets and you can go to any TV in house and watch 1 of the 4 channels. Right now I only have two UHF remotes so can only change 62/64 anywhere in house but plan on getting a few more and will be able to change any TV in house to the channel for the remote you are holding and then watch whatever you want!

    Have both boxes next to 62" Samsung (1080i) connected with hdmi on box 1 and component on box2. Allows me to watch anything recorded in HD on either box on big TV. Plan on getting a long HDMI cable to run to 27" lcd 720p in kitchen so I can have HDTV in Kitchen too.

    Having slight UHF signal issues in MBR, I think due to distance/walls from units but I read about using spliters to move RF ant to TV (I guess diplexers allow signal to pass) so will try it this week and if it works should solve that problem!

    Thank for the help to those who answered and I will follow up with posts as I tweak the system! Maybe make dwg once it is done.

    PS My installer was sceptical that the dist system would work through the diplexers but tried it anyway and he kept saying "My boss needs to see this setup!"
     
  12. scoobyxj

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    For the UHF problem you'll need two splitters. Use one to combine the RF, and the UHF into one line, running that into the DPX. Then at the M bedroom use the other splitter to attach the UHF antenna. (Just in case you wasn't sure how to do it. :D ) Not exactly sure why the tech would have thought the home dist sys wouldn't work to dist the SD Sig, but now he knows I guess. Oh and my father has his set up very similar 'cept he's using 2 625 SD receivers.
     
  13. coldsteel

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    NOT a splitter, use a diplexer pair...
     
  14. ChiefRocscooter

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    Installer did not think the signals could be coupled together so that dist system carried all 4 outputs to every TV.

    As I understand it the splitter couples the dist and ANT at the box and the other one coupled the ANT and signal at the TV. The diplexers are still there they, allow the uhf remote signal to get from the tv to the box the splitters just allow the ANT to be remotely located. Right????
     
  15. SaltiDawg

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    No, splitters.
     
  16. coldsteel

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    Diplexers are made to combine and separate two separate signals, like sat-in and TV2 out or sat-in/ant-in. Splitters aren't.
     
  17. harsh

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    In this case, everything is UHF, so splitters are appropriate. Understand that the OP is talking about sending remote control signals as opposed to satellite signals as you've apparently assumed.
     
  18. SaltiDawg

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    RTFQ. Simple splitters are called for.
     
  19. scoobyxj

    scoobyxj Godfather

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    Pretty much. A DPX (diplexer) will combine/separate two bands of frequencies. UHF/VHF (below 1200 MHz IIRC) will go to the "UHF/VHF" side. Sat frequencies (1800 MHz and above) (as well as DC voltage) will go to the "SAT" side of the DPX. If you try to use DPX to combine the UHF remote Sig, and TV2 you will only get one or the other as the DPX will block our the lower frequencies on the "SAT" side.

    By using a standard splitter you are combining the TV2, and UHF antenna Sig into one output to be DPXed into the Sat line. The other DPX will remove them, and send them both to the TV. Then a second splitter will allow the UHF antenna to be attached right at the TV location.
     
  20. coldsteel

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    Ah. My bad. That's what I get.
     

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