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D* Announces New Rates Starting 2/9/2010

Discussion in 'DIRECTV General Discussion' started by riprecked, Dec 27, 2009.

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  1. Jeremy W

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    Now it's a possibility, in your last post it was reality. Keep this wonky BS out of here, please. There are other message boards for stuff like this.
     
  2. hdtvfan0001

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    Interesting if it were true, but of course, its not.

    There's a reason that the 3D HDTV channels will require double the bandwidth, and you just expained why.
     
  3. hilmar2k

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    So what you are saying is that the HR2x's are 1.4 compatible? Becasue that's what it takes to do what you're saying.
     
  4. hdtvfan0001

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    Not according to the DirecTV and Panasonic folks we talked to.

    HDMI1.4 is not needed to deliver 1080p - in fact - you can get that now on select channels (including VOD) already without HDMI v1.4.

    What IS needed is a means to deliver more than one HD stream in such a manner that it can be decoded through the glasses concurrently, and supposedly, there will be a firmware update to HD receivers in June to support that somehow. We were not told HOW they intended to do it, just that it could/would be done.
     
  5. hilmar2k

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    http://news.cnet.com/8301-17938_105-10434346-1.html?tag=TOCmoreStories.0
     
  6. hilmar2k

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    VOD and PPV are indeed sometimes 1080p24, and that does not require HDMI 1.4. However, what you are talking about is 1080p to each eye, which requires twice the bandwidth, and more than HDMI 1.3 can handle. So there is no way to get 1080p 3D without HDMI 1.4, and impossible on current DIRECTV receivers.
     
  7. Jeremy W

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    We got into a very similar argument the LED TVs at CES last year. You take this marketing BS way too seriously. You either misunderstood what DirecTV and Panasonic said, or they lied to you. I don't know which one it was, but I do know that DirecTV's current equipment isn't delivering 1080p resolution to each eye for 3D. No firmware update will allow it to happen, the hardware simply isn't capable.
     
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    So what we know is that DirecTV will be providing 3D content in HD, but not 1080p BluRay quality, right?
    I personally wouldn't be surprised to find out that DirecTV doesn't have enough bandwidth to push 1080p to 2 seperate frames.

    I don't really know how that's on the DirecTVs upcoming new rate change.

    To the other posters whom have said that DirecTV costs too much now (or will after the price change), then please leave. We at DBSTalk want you to be happy with your provider, if you don't like it you can move along.

    Who has "better" HD than DirecTV? With better picture/audio quality? Dish?? Comcast? If that's the case, why are you still with DirecTV?

    And to DoubleTap personally, no one is going to pay for you to leave, that is silly. But DirecTVs numbers are still going up (even with all the people stopping their service because they can't afford it). Go figure that out.
     
  9. adamson

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    FYI technologies to develop fraud detection techniques will result in increased comsumer costs. It is in Directv's financial reports. This information came directly from a local installer. How can directv continue no phone line policy without identifying their equipments location without increasing costs due to fraud? It is part of the increase we are seeing now.
     
  10. Lord Vader

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    I wouldn't take seriously much of what a local installer has to say. They're usually as clueless as a DirecTV CSR.

    The increase in fees is due mostly to the constant price increases by programmers. These are passed on to the consumer--you and me. Illegal satellite reception/fraud is not nearly as rampant as it was in the late 1990s and early 2000s, when DirecTV's access cards were totally compromised. Since the advent of their P4 cards, which have been in use for the last several years, piracy is nonexistent.

    The phone line situation to which you refer is a BS excuse from you or a "local installer" to try and justify price increases. Did you ever stop to think about this fact: more Americans are simply ditching their home phones/landline phones and going with cellular service as their sole means of phone communication.

    Two of my cousins a year ago ditched their phone service at home for cell phone service only, and both of them are DirecTV customers. Ditto for a friend of mine.

    There are legitimate reasons to not have a phone line connected, and to have some absolute demand that a phone line be connected is simply absurd; DirecTV understands this.
     
  11. raott

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    Your bill is based on what alot of very smart pricing analysts believe will generate the most revenue. It is only indirectly related to programming costs as the entire market shifts. Your bill is not increasing due to the non-enforcement of the phone line policy in any way shape or form. It is also not increasing due to fraud prevention. Even if there were mass fraud going on, your bill is based on what the market will allow. D* cannot simply raise your bill above the market price without their revenues falling.
     
  12. Beerstalker

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    Wouldn't 960x1080p still be considered 1080p? Maybe that's how they can still claim that it will be 1080p. They didn't really say it would still be 1920x1080p.
     
  13. hilmar2k

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    I suppose, it's a bit of a stretch, though (pun intended). All I know is it will not be 1920x1080 on current hardware.
     
  14. Beerstalker

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    Doesn't Dish currently offer PPV in 1280x1080p and call it 1080p? Or do they not donscale the PPV like they do other 1080i programming?
     
  15. Jeremy W

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    No. The shorthand "1080p" refers to 1920x1080p only. You can't just substitute another horizontal resolution and call it 1080p. The reason DirecTV gets away with it is the same reason they got away with HD Lite in the past, because the final output is stretched to the proper resolution.
     
  16. hdtvfan0001

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    Then again....you could be wrong.

    You're welcome to believe what you wish, but we were told what we were told, and have no reason to accuse any of those folks of not telling the truth. Since this came from not only the onsite DirecTV folks, but also the Panasonic folks, we'd be inclined to believe them instead of any naysayers.

    But then again....this thread is about the pricing changes, so perhaps its time for the sign...

    :backtotop
     
  17. Jeremy W

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    I could, but I'm not.
    Would you believe a press release from DirecTV and RealD?

    http://www.hdtvmagazine.com/news/20...ogether_to_deliver_3d_content_to_the_home.php
    Yeah, you don't get to continue the argument and then try and redeem yourself by posting that sign. It doesn't work that way.
     
  18. hilmar2k

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    I am not a naysayer, I am just saying nay to your statement that DIRECTV's 3D will be 1080p to each eye. That just simply isn't possible with current hardware, regardless of what DIRECTV or Panasonic said...or what you inferred from what they actually said.
     
  19. carl6

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    Actions speak louder than words. I love my DirecTV service and equipment, but I just called and deactivated three receivers to save $15 a month, which will more than offset the rate increase in February. They were all extra, doubled up on the same tv's, nice but not necessary.
     
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