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D10 Satellite - HD Anticipation and other posts

Discussion in 'DIRECTV General Discussion' started by lwilli201, Aug 23, 2007.

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  1. Sep 1, 2007 #221 of 8833
    Alan Gordon

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    I've had it on my HR20-100 which had been rebooted over and over (issues with the box), I've had it on my HR20-700 before and after several reboots (trying to get the CE last night).

    It does not appear to be a problem with the box, but rather some sort of testing done by DirecTV...

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  2. Sep 1, 2007 #222 of 8833
    donshan

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    I had the same problem when I first turned on D* this morning with a "signal testing 9.31a" message. A Setup menu reset cured it .

    I have posted the details of other things I found during the problem in the HR 20-700 SW Ox-18a issues thread:

    http://www.dbstalk.com/showpost.php?p=1080244&postcount=165
     
  3. Sep 1, 2007 #223 of 8833
    hdtvfan0001

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    I just thought it was interesting to see all those new transponders on the new Sat 103 (a) and Sat (b) in the setup..even though most are a 0 in signal strength right now...

    The point is, there are more transponders ready to be activated on D*TV's command for the 103 sat.
     
  4. Sep 1, 2007 #224 of 8833
    Alan Gordon

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    Yes, I've read that post, but I disagree with your assessment that it's a glitch... I believe it's some sort of code written into the HR20 to check the signal levels at various geographic locations so as to get a better understanding of the KA signal from D10... especially since I've only had this issue since DirecTV started getting D10 into it's general area.

    As for your statement that it's not actually recording anything, it doesn't need to be to check signal strength.

    I could be wrong, but I don't consider this to be a problem. If this conflicts with a recording, I will cancel the signal test, but if it doesn't, I'm going to let it be to allow DirecTV all the data it needs. A reboot is unnecessary in my opinion...

    ~Alan
     
  5. Sep 1, 2007 #225 of 8833
    donshan

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    Thanks for looking it over. I too consider it possible they are actually testing reception, but if so the software is flawed. In my case the signal test left the transponder pages not functioning and a reboot was required to get them working again, so I called it a "glitch". In my case I only received the OX- 18a SW update Aug 22 so that is a recent change too. When I first saw the signal test I thought it could be a D10 related test just as you describe, but then when I had to reboot to get transponder data pages to list any number values I was not so sure. I was disappointed after the reboot not to find some D10 related changes of some kind.:(

    As a clarification, I was checking for recordings since if two recordings were in progress, it is not possible to change channels, so I was checking that D* wa not recording some of those "promotional" items to the DVR using both tuners and blocking my use. They were not recording anything to the DVR eliminating that idea.

    If they are running tests how do they get the reception data back- via the phone line? And one other item, the last channel I looked at last night was ch 499. Is it possible that leaving a tuner on ch 499 could be involved with this signal test issue?

    Anyway, I posted this over at the HR20 software issue thread hoping the experts there could help me understand it. :confused:
     
  6. Sep 1, 2007 #226 of 8833
    Alan Gordon

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    Oh yeah, there is definately a glitch in the software as I have had the exact same problem, but since the channels still come in regardless of the signal strength page, I don't worry about it too much...


    Twice now, I have been watching OTA and when I tried to turn it to a satellite channel, it told me that it couldn't because tuners were in use, and gave me an option of choosing to cancel, or cancel one of the programs in use. One of them would be something I recorded... the other, would be the signal testing.

    No, I rarely check 499, and I have the signal check come up quite a bit... but yeah, the phone line is probably how...

    ~Alan
     
  7. Sep 1, 2007 #227 of 8833
    donshan

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    Thanks for the warning. I have not had that come up yet, but will be prepared if (when?) it does.:)

    I probably have not encountered this before, since we usually watch DVR recordings 80 percent of the time to time shift things to our schedule. Thus I wouldn't have noticed if D* was using both tuners for testing. I will see if I can reproduce while I watch a network OTA game live this weekend and try test recording and switching to D* channels at times.
     
  8. Sep 1, 2007 #228 of 8833
    Alan Gordon

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    My HR20 is used mostly for recordings too (most of my live TV viewings are in other rooms with TiVos), BUT I have been having a local radar channel on a lot lately due to rain/storms. I've also been watching more live TV the last few days since I replaced a HR20-100 with a -700 after the -100 started having issues, setting up my Series Links again...

    ~Alan
     
  9. Sep 1, 2007 #229 of 8833
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    FSMW (647) has the "HD" icon by the NCAA football games today? Its broadcasting in SD, but the icon is there. Is this new or has that been there for awhile? Is this a sign of anything?
     
  10. Sep 1, 2007 #230 of 8833
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    It's a sign that FSMW is simulcasting in HD, just not (yet) on DIRECTV. You may be able to find the same thing happening on the Discovery Networks.
     
  11. Sep 1, 2007 #231 of 8833
    Tom Robertson

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    Let's leave Swammi bashing somewhere else and go :backtotop

    Thanks,
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  12. Sep 2, 2007 #232 of 8833
    Hutchinshouse

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    OK, I just got my second HR20 today. Another 700 :)

    ATTN: D* - You have my approval to let the new channels fly :D
     
  13. Sep 2, 2007 #233 of 8833
    Alan Gordon

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    Actually, over the years, DirecTV has had several channels in the guide have the HD logo (ESPN2, USA, FX, National Geographic Channel, regional sports networks, and a few others), but these were at times when the network didn't necessarily have a HD channel.

    I can't speak for FSMW as I don't know anything about the channel, but just wanted to bring up the fact that it doesn't necessarily mean anything...

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  14. Sep 2, 2007 #234 of 8833
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    Damn! 103(b) is still all 0's. Retest...
    Damn! 103(b) is still all 0's. Retest...
     
  15. Sep 2, 2007 #235 of 8833
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    :lol: :lol: :lol:

    This could be almost like work here with 3 units... :D
     
  16. Sep 2, 2007 #236 of 8833
    donshan

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    Here is an idea to make it easier for you. The 0s in 103(b) are meaningless too because that transponder screen page is not connected to any tuners yet and cannot measure any transponders.

    On the software technical thread 1948GG discussed the idea that the 103(b) screen is not actually reading anything at all yet. The 0s are being put into the screen by the software. It will take another signal from D* to activate the tuners to receive D10 signals before 103(b) will measure anything- even 0.

    I believe 1948GG is correct. Run this little test. Put up any other transponder page and note the time it takes for your receiver to read a transponder value and place a number in the table and then go to the next transponder. On 103(b) the 0s pop in quickly because they are simulated readings until the tuners are connected to the D10 signals and the software actually measures something.

    In a few days that will change when D* sends a software signal to activate 103(b), but for now it is a waste of time to watch the 0s appear unless you enjoy watching software run. :)

    Patience :D
     
  17. Sep 2, 2007 #237 of 8833
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    This might be different for different people, but on my HR20-100, the 0's on 103(b) take the same amount of time to appear as the readings on other satellites.

    Not saying you're wrong about the fake screen, I'm just saying that on my system, the readings don't come up quickly.
     
  18. Sep 2, 2007 #238 of 8833
    Sirshagg

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    I have noticed that these 0's appear faster than the numbers on any other Sat. In any case I suspect there will be no new HD (for me) untill these 0's turn to something else.
     
  19. Sep 2, 2007 #239 of 8833
    hdtvfan0001

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    This is the most likely situation.

    The fact that these are now at least visible means they exist and the receiver/DVR can see something...D*TV controls its activation.
     
  20. Sep 2, 2007 #240 of 8833
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    Just talked to retention and they said the 16th or the 24th for the new channels to come online. :(

    I did get me 10 bucks off for 6 months for all these tuner lockups tho. :D
     
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