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DATA COLLECTION: L218 OTA Guide Data Problems

Discussion in 'Other HD Receiver Support Forum (811, 921, 942)' started by Allen Noland, Jul 28, 2005.

  1. madbrain

    madbrain Legend

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    Like many others, I have a problem in the SF bay area about not getting the guide for any of the PBS subchannels anymore - 9.1 through 9.5 .

    Pre-L215 I had OTA with no guide (I was not an LIL subscriber)
    L215 added a free guide for all 5 KQED subchannels
    L216 broke all OTA for me, not just the guide
    L216 got me a free LIL subscription, which restored the KQED guide
    L218 broke the guide for KQED

    Now I feel like I'm not getting the guide I'm supposed to get for free ;).

    I can't imagine the confusion of people who don't read this forum (ie. regular Dish customers who own a 921 !).
     
  2. Grandude

    Grandude RichardParker II

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    Hopefully they are all calling Dish and complaining. :nono2:
     
  3. Damiang

    Damiang Cool Member

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    Jul 21, 2005
    Regrettably, I am disappointed to report that 218 did nothing to resolve the OTA missing guide data as below. Still not working for all the NO channels since 212, which was fully populated except for the local PBS-HD (WNED. :nono2:

    Market: Buffalo, New York market with a subscription to the dish locals.

    With L212 I had ALL OTA data for all the below locals except WNED for which I never had any data. Strangely, I am receiving guide data in the sub channel for WNED 43-1.

    Station - Call Letters - Guide Data received...

    002-01 wgrz No
    004-01 wivb No
    007-01 wkbw Yes
    023-01 wnlo Yes
    029-01 wutv Yes
    049-01 wnyo No
    043-1 wned No
    043-2 wned Yes!

    Canadian (not subscribed to) but received OTA
    005-1 CKX1 No
    015-1 CKXT-No

    Thanks!

    Regards,
    Damian
     
  4. gboot

    gboot AllStar

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    Oct 11, 2004
    No change with 218, I recieve guide data for most digital OTA channels except PBS, which is 12-1 and 12-2 (National feed) and some local Philly/ South Jersey stations. I hoped that I would see the National PBS guide data with 218.
     
  5. Jason Kragt

    Jason Kragt Legend

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    Dec 19, 2002
    WZZM-DT 13-1 from Grand Rapids, MI is still missing guide data.
     
  6. madbrain

    madbrain Legend

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    Dec 10, 2004
    Has anybody unsubscribed from the free locals yet to find out what kind of behavior L218 has when you don't subscribe to LIL ?
    Is OTA reception still completely broken like in L216 ? Or do you just get no guide, as in the L213 and earlier days ?
     
  7. angiodan

    angiodan Godfather/Supporter

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    Had guide data for Fort Myers locals except PBS with L215. (do not subscribe to locals, just distants)
    Lost the channels with 216.
    Channels back with 218, but no more guide data. It was nice while it lasted!
     
  8. pwherr

    pwherr Mentor

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    Jul 14, 2004
    No guide info FOX 21 KXRM Colorado Springs,CO OTA with local sub.Comes up on dish channel but not on OTA.
     
  9. langlin

    langlin Godfather

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    Apr 8, 2005
    With L219 my guide is unchanged from L218 so if L219 was to fix the OTA guide, it did NOT fix mine.

    My complete OTA picture is as follows:
    (IN DMA)
    RF 44 - 003-01 NBC I have guide for this channel (KYTV)
    RF 44 - 003-02 UPN No guide (didn't expect guide) (KDL-17)
    RF23 - 021-01 PBS No guide (expected guide, this guide lost w/L213)(KOZK)
    RF23 - 021-02 PBS No guide (didn't expect guide)
    RF23 - 021-03 PBS No guide (didn't expect guide)
    RF23 - 021-04 PBS No guide

    Out of DMA
    RF13 - 006-01 PBS No guide (KEMV)
    RF13 - 006-02 PBS No guide
    RF13 - 006-03 PBS No guide
    RF13 - 006-04 PBS No guide
     
  10. keitheva

    keitheva Legend

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    Aug 23, 2002
    -Keith
     
  11. lapplegate

    lapplegate Legend

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    Jan 17, 2003
    Same for 219.
    At least the reporting is easier, just have to use one of the reports from 213, 215, 216 or 218.
     
  12. DanB33

    DanB33 Cool Member

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    With L219, still no Guide data for WZZM-DT 013-01 ATSC Channel 39 in Grand Rapids, MI.
    I do subscribe to GR Locals. WZZM is 8710 on Dish.
    There are 2 ABC Station in GR, WZZM and WOTV.
    WZZM is the only VHF Station (13) with a UHF Digital Station (39).
    Also, no Guide for WZPX, PAX. But WZPX is not in the GR Locals Package.
     
  13. SummitAdvantageRetailer

    SummitAdvantageRetailer Godfather

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    Feb 20, 2005
    Even with 219 update, I still have the following issues.

    It seems as though my off-air local stations that are also on E*'s wing satellite (61.5) are not getting local guide info. It might be because the 921 can't read the guide info since they're on the wing satellite, the stations are not broadcasting the PSIP info correctly, or that this is a bug with the 921.

    I have a bug report thread here that describes this in better detail:
    http://www.dbstalk.com/showthread.php?p=434802
     
  14. Damiang

    Damiang Cool Member

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    2.19- Still Missing Guide Data
    Well, no change with the missing guide data from 2.13. This is getting real frustrating as I am ready to chuck this POS out the window. Also I have noticed since 2.18 that 4:3 material and commercials during HD broadcasts in 1080i mode are not centered to the screen anymore. Everything seems shifted almost 1.5 inches to the right Regarding the channel guide, I am getting alot of cut and paste practice with this. As such...

    Regrettably, I am disappointed to report again that 219 did nothing to resolve the OTA missing guide data as below. Still not working for all the NO channels since 212, which was fully populated except for the local PBS-HD (WNED.

    Market: Buffalo, New York market with a subscription to the dish locals.

    With L212 I had ALL OTA data for all the below locals except WNED for which I never had any data. Strangely, I am receiving guide data in the sub channel for WNED 43-1.

    Station - Call Letters - Guide Data received...

    002-01 wgrz No
    004-01 wivb No
    007-01 wkbw Yes
    023-01 wnlo Yes
    029-01 wutv Yes
    049-01 wnyo No
    043-1 wned No
    043-2 wned Yes!

    Canadian (not subscribed to) but received OTA
    005-1 CKX1 No
    015-1 CKXT-No

    Thanks!

    Regards,
    Damian
     
  15. onethree

    onethree Mentor

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    Jul 4, 2004
    Once again the latest software update did not improve the Guide situation in Oklahoma City. I still do not have Guide information for KFOR-NBC (27,remap 4.1,4.2), KWTV-CBS (39,remap 9.1) and KETA-PBS (32,remap 13.1,13.2,13.3,13.4).
     
  16. revenson

    revenson Cool Member

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    Jan 31, 2003
    I sub to locals...no guide for nbc-hd 005-02..had at 211...no data for fox-hd 013-02 had at 211...live in Salt Lake City! :mad:
     
  17. Leroy

    Leroy Cool Member

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    Jan 20, 2005
    219 did fix my PBS guide data, for Los Angeles. Looks the same as 215 at this point :) Thanks folks :D
     
  18. bhawley

    bhawley AllStar

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    Oct 26, 2002
    Raleigh/Durham NC

    05-01 WRAL5 no guide data
    50-01 FOX50 no guide data

    I sub to locals.

    Needle stuck :(
     
  19. Hubbs

    Hubbs New Member

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    Jan 19, 2005
    Chicago 009-01 WGN "No information available"

    Should have same guide info as channel 8494.

    I subscribe to locals, have 219.
     
  20. logray

    logray Godfather

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    Apr 8, 2005
    Here in Sacramento I have the same problem with my 811 receiver. I do not have a 921. So this problem is not receiver specific.

    1.) Electronic guide data for KVIE PBS channel 6 and subchannels is incorrect and/or missing.

    2.) Electronic guide data for KOVR CBS channel 13 is listed only for the subchannel.

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    *denotes guide data missing from EPG. guide displays "Local Digital" for all timeslots for this channel.

    #denotes guide data listed on wrong channel.

    6am to 6pm
    *06-01: KVIE Channel 6 (same as dish channel 8636)
    #06-02: KVIE Cable Channel 7 (EPG displays guide data for KVIE Channel 6)
    *06-03: PBS Kids
    *06-04: PBS You (same as dish channel 9402)

    6pm to 6am
    *06-01: PBS National High Def
    #06-02: KVIE Cable Channel 7 (EPG displays guide data for KVIE Channel 6 which doesn't exist from 6pm to 6am)
    06-03: Off Air (channel removed)
    06-04: Off Air (channel removed)

    *13-01: CBS KOVR Channel 13 (High Def) [same as dish channel 8631]
    13-02: CBS KOVR Channel 13 (Standard Def mirror of 13-01) [same as dish channel 8631]

    Note that on the 811, 6.1 and 6.2 get mapped to 53.1 (UHF) and 53.2 when watching them from 6pm to 6am. This problem exists with Sony, Echostar, and some other receivers.

    Also note that I subscribe to all Sacramento LiL channels from Dish. All of these channels are carried by Dish, except for PBS Kids and PBS HD (national feed).
     

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