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DBSTalk Exclusive First Look: H24-100 High Definition Receiver

Discussion in 'DIRECTV HD DVR/Receiver Discussion' started by Doug Brott, Feb 26, 2010.

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  1. inkahauts

    inkahauts Well-Known Member

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    One really nice thing about this unit that I have found, is it actually speeds up your HR21.. I use it to access my HR21 via MRV, and I can surf that playlist and watch a show faster than if I do it on the actual HR21... And it responds faster to commands in trickplay for it as well. :D

    Thats one reason its speed is compared to the HR's....
     
  2. inkahauts

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    The workaround for this if your using a sling box is that with MRV, you can use the slingbox on any unit to view anything from, so juts put your sling on whatever unit does not need to be rf...
     
  3. inkahauts

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    No, you can have both... I love my car... Its got a v6 and moves along real well.. I have driven a v4.. they are really slow/low power in comparison.. Too low for me.. But lets be honest, when I steal my dads corvette every once in a while, it blows my car out of the water with its speed and handling... Thats best, but I don;t think it makes my current car a junk heap....


    And really, how many people really truly channel surf anymore? Most I think flip through the guide, which is blazon faster... I have used my hr20s since they where first available, and they do great, definitely faster than my HR21's.. But even though I am happy with my HR20's, they are slow in comparison to the new H24... SO I can use either HR20, or H24, but I prefer the H24 right now.. Since MRV was brought out, I rarely use my HR21's unless its to set something up.. I just view all its recordings remotely, to avoid its slower response....
     
  4. loudo

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    Nice review, thanks guys.
     
  5. Nicholsen

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    This is actually a brilliant idea. The HR21 is a server, you use the H24 as the STB. You get snappy performance at the remote. It's a workaround, but perhaps a pretty good one.

    My modest suggestion: They put the H24 parts inside the HR21, call it an HR45, and I will pay an extra $4 a month for the second processor and additional memory. Just a thought. :)

    Is there a projected cost for the H24?
     
  6. P Smith

    P Smith Mr. FixAnything

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    Oops, I catch you, Sixto. :D
    Hxx and HRxx using same chip; early models - 7038, later - 7402: both support SATA(2x) and USB 2.0 (2x).
    If you mean FW, then it will be different story what could be changed any time.
     
  7. Mike Greer

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    I will if you will!:)

    I'm actually thinking the speed up is legit this time.;) There a few no-bull people here that say it is much faster than the old boxes - not just the usual suspects that think everything is happy and fine in DirecTVland.

    So basically put me down as cautiously optimistic!

    No how do I get a few of these without re-starting my 2 years?:D Damn it.
     
  8. loudo

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    I was doing a home theater install a few weeks ago, while DirecTV was installing a new system. They installed a HR20-700 receiver for that install. I didn't think they still had any of those around, but maybe it was a refurbished unit. Didn't notice it was an HR20 until after the installer left, so I hooked it up to the old attic antenna connection and got him some additional local channels.
     
  9. Grentz

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    Should be the same as the other HD non-DVRs. $99 upfront.
     
  10. Sixto

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    As an example, was referring to h21 (BCM7402) vs hr21 (BCM7401). 7401 spec says non-DVR, 7402 says DVR functions. Not sure of true benefit.
     
  11. Garyunc

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    IMO, D* should offer a discount on these to those of us with H20's that cannot do MRV and want to have MRV. Especially considering they want to charge a monthly fee for MRV.
     
  12. gully_foyle

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    Umm, lots of us? Especially the technically challenged, such as spouses or children? Channel up or channel down ought to be MUCH quicker than it is on the HR2x boxes. Even with a fixed 1080i output, it takes several seconds to tune a new channel. Personally, I think it's more like 8 than 4 over HDMI, but whatever; it's too slow.

    The statistic about 3-digit channel changes isn't all that useful, though, because that IS something that people rarely do. But channel-surfing up or down is common and is so tedious that it would behoove DirecTV to fix it. It's the most glaring problem remaining in the HR2x boxes. And speeding it up by a tiny amount isn't really helping much.
     
  13. Juppers

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    Where is the HR version? For those of us that are fed up with the pathetic speed of the current HR versions, we need the promised performance increase from several months ago.
     
  14. Doug Brott

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    LameLefty I used to be a rocket scientist

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    I don't know how long you've used the current boxes, but there HAS been a tremendous increase in general UI speed, especially for the chronically-slow HR22-100 units.

    Now, that said, everyone complaining about "channel surfing" speed needs to read the points already raised in this thread: one, the signal-switching process is simply takes LONGER with satellite TV today than it did back when Directv used one dish pointed at one location without multiswitches; two, TVs and receivers need time to negotiate the resolution changes and coordinate the HDMI handshake process (this obviously varies based on whether people are using Native On or Off, are using HDMI connections, have certain resolutions enabled or disabled, etc.); and three, I posit that FAR more people use the Guide or mini-Guide to change channels than actually use Channel Up or Down to "surf" like people did in years past. I, my family, and just about all my friends, "surf" the Guide, not the actual channels.

    That said, the H24 is still faster at channel changes, in every regard, than any other HD receiver I've ever seen or used. :)
     
  16. steelerfanmike

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    How come no built in OTA tuner for us over the air guys? Since the new receiver is smaller, will they come out with a smaller AM21 to match? it would look real goofy with no match !!
     
  17. RAD

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    I haven't seen any word on a new form factor AM21 to match the H24. I'd guess that DirecTV feels the market isn't large enough to justify the expense of coming up with a new case.

    You could always hide the AM21 behind your rack (or whatever you use) since the cords are long enough to allow them to not be right on top of each other, so nobody sees it.
     
  18. Doug Brott

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    OTA hasn't been built into any DIRECTV receiver for a couple of years now, not sure why DIRECTV would start now? The AM21 is the OTA solution. I haven't heard of a new form factor version of the AM21 and honestly, the AM21 is small enough inside that it being a large problem to create a new solution (AM24 for example), BUT .. I just don't know that there are enough OTA buyers to make it worth DIRECTV's effort to create such a solution.

    I'll ask if there are any plans for a smaller form factor OTA device, but I suspect that there are none.
     
  19. anubys

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    I honestly don't understand why...the AM21 is still buggy and you have to offer the CSR sex to get one...I like to have the OTA for when the SAT feed is interrupted by weather...why not just add the tuners to the box and make everyone happy?
     
  20. RAD

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    What bugs are you seeing? I have AM21's connected to HR21, HR22, HR23 and H21 and with the last couple releases I don't have any problems with it.

    I've never had a problem getting a AM21, just logged onto the DirecTV web site, went to add equipment and add it to be shipped. I just checked and the AM21 is listed there still as something I can order. You sure you don't have one in your car already, some have reported that they didn't know it was already in their cart for checkout.

    As for why don't they include them anymore, $'s is the answer. The vast majority of DirecTV customers don't need OTA, they get their locals via satellite. If they want to have backup in case of rain failure there's always the ATSC tuners that could be used in the TV, assuming that they've bothered to get an OTA antenna to connect the set to.
     
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