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Discussion in 'DIRECTV HD DVR/Receiver Discussion' started by Stuart Sweet, Oct 6, 2011.
Send me a 67" Sammie to replace my 56" and I'll let you know . . . :lol:
I sure didn't mean to beat on you, if you are referring to me. But I have experienced PIP in the past, and have it on my Sammy in the LR (realizing it's not exactly parallel to a receiver having PIP.)
I no longer use it. I find it's much more convenient to record two or more, say games, and switch between or among them, FF a lot. That's what works for me.
At the same time, I lust for the 34, saw it at CES last year, though didn't get to try out the PIP there. Its implementation may change my mind.
Finally, whether or not the chips on some or most or all current receivers could support it, DirecTV has chosen to follow other paths in the GUI development.
It would be much easier if you just send me your HR34.
You're right, but only for one half - BCM7038 (inside of many H[R]20s) does support PIP in HW, but only for MPEG-2 compressed video.
Interesting idea, but when the H25 is on its own satellite tuner when live thus releasing one the HR34's, how do you propose to maintain a live buffer for the H25 whenever delayed viewing or trick play is called for by a user on the H25?
Roaring success or not many people liked the UltimateTV for the interface and functionality.
I believe there are still people using them.
I've been thinking about that myself. I think one implementation might be: when connected to an HR34 the default "mode" of the H25 would be an RVU client. The H25 would essentially function the same as the C30 at that point. But in cases where the HR34 tuners would be tied up (either locally or remotely) the H25 would present an option to operate in "local" mode (where it's basically the H25 we know currently; MRV, no buffer, etc.) There might also be a menu option to always remain in "local" mode should the user not wish to allow full access to the HR34.
I think he meant the PIP function. I didn't use it either.
I did like the UTV DVRs.
If that's true, and based on posts about techs inadvertantly overloading a SWM, it would be nice to see a warning message during install. Something to the effect of "The HR34 cannot use all available tuners due to an external hardware configuration problem. This setup contains XX tuners; please ensure a SWM16 is utilized (and functioning correctly) if the setup contains 9-16 tuners. No more than 8 tuners may be placed on each leg of a SWM16." This would allow both the tech, and customer to understand that there's an issue during installation.
If the HR34 defaults to a lower amount of tuners without a message then the tech may not realize there's an issue.
It wouldn't be the first time I misunderstood something.
Sure, but that was then, and this is now- i.e., HD and MPEG4; lots of changes.
Also, what some folk don't quite grok is that HD in 16:9 ratio, when done side by side produces a picture that is only 1/4 of the original size. (There are two of them, of course.)
Pardon the blurry iPhone pic, but you get the idea of how much screen space is "wasted" in side-by-side PIP using 16:9 sources.
I think the problem with PIP in the past is that when it first came out you had to have two sources in order to use it, either the internal tuner and an external device, such as a VCR or satellite receiver, or two satellite receivers. Then TV's came out with two tuners built in, but in order to use it with satellite you still had to use two receivers, and multiple remotes. All of that made it complicated for the average user to use. Now that its built into the receiver, it will be as easy as pressing one button (hopefully the yellow button soon) to make it work.
The other problem is that we never have it available to us, unless you had UTV (or E* or c*). I think once people try it out and see what it can do, they will use it more. I know I will be using it for sports.
Still use two televisions in my Great Room every Sunday for exactly this reason. SWiM made this much easier because I had two runs to my Great Room under the legacy configuration. H25 is so compact it's easy to move.
Now if I'm as lucky a guy as LameLefty to get a HR34 this setup will become obselete. BTW - does anybody know if LameLefty has an HR34??
What I think would be great is to have the DirecTV mix channel in HD, and four boxes only, with little or no padding. Then we sports nuts would have a fab. setup, and this would work on all existing receivers (duh, the HD ones, that is!) It would also maximize screen real estate while providing a large enough picture for medium to large TVs.
Not positive I'm right...:lol:
That is where a 141" 2.40:1 screen comes in handy. You can zoom the image to cut off the gray bars on top and bottom. Each picture should still be quite sizeable.
Would quad work?
Quad what? Pip? Then no its only side by side, and then in the corner with ability to select which corner.
Though quad would be cool option to be able to do. I'd barely use it but I'd be able to create 4 corners of sports on a given day and switch around them all. Would be cool but not currently available on this box.
Has anyone confirmed if the HR34 will be able to be ordered separately, or will it be lopped into the "HD-DVR Receiver" category and you 'may or may not' get one, similar to the current crop of HD-DVRs?