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DBSTalk Exclusive First Look: HR44-700 Genie

Discussion in 'DIRECTV HD DVR/Receiver Discussion' started by Scott Kocourek, Jan 8, 2013.

  1. Feb 1, 2013 #421 of 672
    veryoldschool

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    "And then", you can just remove a coax from the splitter and see which receiver loses signal. :lol:
     
  2. Feb 1, 2013 #422 of 672
    cypherx

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    I have swm-8 so there is one wire from the dish to an 8 port green label splitter in my garage.

    For swm-16, I've been googling it and it looks like one of those bigger old style switches. Looks like you have to have more than 1 line from the dish? 2 to 4 lines? Is that correct? How is that "Single Wire" if its more like Double or Quad wire. Or am I looking at the wrong thing in google image search?

    Not meaning to change the subject... but an HR44 with 5 tuners takes more of the "tuner budget" and needs to be carefully accounted for.
     
  3. Feb 1, 2013 #423 of 672
    samrs

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  4. Feb 1, 2013 #424 of 672
    veryoldschool

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    I don't think you have a SWM8, if you have only one coax from your dish. You have a SWMLNB.
    The SWiM-16 has two outputs, and each supports the same 8 tuners as your SWMLNB. The SWM8 & -16 both need four coax from the dish.
     
  5. Feb 1, 2013 #425 of 672
    Bajanjack

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    Guys-you are all awesome!.............Thanks so much for all of the help!!
     
  6. Feb 1, 2013 #426 of 672
    cypherx

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    Thanks VOS. I could have confused the terminology. Because I have 8 ports on the splitter I thought that meant swm-8.

    So to get more, I likely need an LNB replacement with an extra coax feed down from it?
     
  7. Feb 1, 2013 #427 of 672
    veryoldschool

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    If you need more than 8, you'll need to have an LNB with four coax to the SWiM-16, and two coax from the -16.
     
  8. Feb 1, 2013 #428 of 672
    Beerstalker

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    The HR24 does have an internal DECA adapter. However it does not have the ability to bridge your DECA network to your home internet network. Do you currently have whole home DVR? If so do you also have access to On Demand, TV Apps, Pandora, You Tube, etc? If so then you already have a Cincema Connect Kit (CCK, or WCCK) somewhere in your DirecTV system bridging the two networks together. Since you already have that and SWM then the DirecTV computer system knows that they don't have to send you another CCK (or WCCK) to go along with the HR34.

    We know this, and some DirecTV techs/CSRs know this, but I'm pretty sure DirecTV's official stance, and the way the installers are supposed to install it, is to still use a CCK and not to use a HR34 as the DECA bridge.
     
  9. Feb 1, 2013 #429 of 672
    Bajanjack

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    I do have whole home DVR and access to all you noted...my HR24 is hardwired to my network.....I don't have a CCK
     
  10. Feb 1, 2013 #430 of 672
    Bajanjack

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    You were right!....Just got my HR34 delivered!.......I'm still a happy camper!
     
  11. Feb 1, 2013 #431 of 672
    carl6

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    Yes, 4 coax from dish to SWM16.
    Four coax from dish to SWM16. Single wire from SWM16 to any given receiver or DVR. So you would still feed a 5 tuner Genie with a single coax (from the SWM16 to the Genie), even though you need 4 coax from the dish to the SWM16.

    If you have an SWM LNB, then it's single wire all the way from the dish. But if you have an external SWM8 or SWM16 multiswitch, then the "single wire" part is only from that point out to the receiver(s).
     
  12. Feb 2, 2013 #432 of 672
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    No. 1 thing... keep yourself happy! enjoy her :)
     
  13. Feb 2, 2013 #433 of 672
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    And now you know how much a CSR knows. Something to consider when dealing with them.

    Rich
     
  14. Feb 2, 2013 #434 of 672
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    I'm sorry and really don't want to beat a dead horse. It's none of my business why any company decides how to do what they do or why the do it that way. But why oh why did "D" decide, as you say they did, to use a technology that forces an external hard drive to replace the internal hard drive instead of add to the internal hard drive? If that technology is the eSATA connection vs. the USB connection then the question still stands. It seems unlikely that "E" spends more money on their DVR's so I have to assume that cost differences in technology is not a factor.
     
  15. Feb 2, 2013 #435 of 672
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    The quick answer is that to extend the storage, you'd need to RAID the drives, and the hardware does not support RAID.
     
  16. Feb 2, 2013 #436 of 672
    Mike Greer

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    I don't think they would need to support any kind of RAID - they would just need to update their software to support additional storage on a 2nd drive.

    I'm sure in the current software you'd be correct - the system needs to 'think' it is running on one drive. Software updates could fix that but I doubt that is likely to happen but I guess you never know. Current standard DVRs won't support drives over 2TB either. At least with the HR34/44 you can use bigger drives... But still only 1 unfortunately.
     
  17. Feb 2, 2013 #437 of 672
    Richierich

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    Directv doesn't officially Support the External Hard Drive so if something happens you are on your own but if Directv allowed you to marry the External Drive to the Internal Drive then if you had problems Directv would have problems saying that they couldn't help fix the problem because they don't officially Support the External Drive.
     
  18. Feb 2, 2013 #438 of 672
    RunnerFL

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    And just how do you think that multiple drives could be used to create one big space without either software (shiver) or hardware RAID?
     
  19. Feb 2, 2013 #439 of 672
    Mike Greer

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    Ah, how about an update to the software so it can use extra free space on a 2nd drive to store recordings? Just like I said in my post. I know that is horribly complicated for DirecTV engineers but maybe the borrow a few from somewhere?

    I know you like to argue - geez...:grin:

    Plenty - ok - I'd think damn near all - operating systems can use multiple hard drives without raid of any kind. Including the OS that DirecTV uses. DirecTV has just chosen not to put that additional space to use.
     
  20. Feb 2, 2013 #440 of 672
    RunnerFL

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    Again, how do you do that without at least software RAID?

    Ummm, no. I just ask questions. Just because you don't like them doesn't mean they are argumentative.

    Not when you're taking 2 devices and combining them to make one space/partition.

    Even Tivo's way of "blessing" drives to make them one partition was software RAID.
     

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