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DBSTalk Exclusive First Look: HR44-700 Genie

Discussion in 'DIRECTV HD DVR/Receiver Discussion' started by Scott Kocourek, Jan 8, 2013.

  1. top_speed

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    Happening now for a few select beta users maybe. (I'm happy 4 u guyz however!)

    Flagship in electronics is almost a "was yesterday" term. And, remembering back to when the M/S Carnival Liberty was their flagship sure brings up a grin (for that word only!).

    I'm def still wanting the 44 but without the enhancements to the software as described a few posts earlier, I certainly cannot waive the white flag as an all-out future-is-now accomplishment. It is a nice step forward however ;)
     
  2. Richierich

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    Actually, I meant to say it will be Happening Soon as in the not too distant Future!!! :lol:
     
  3. jibberyerkibber

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    I have an HR34 and I am dismayed by the fact that it does what you tell it to do so slowly. I think the microprocessor came out of a Conestoga wagon. Even worse, though, the software for this machine is still, to me , very unsatisfactory. For example, my HR23 and HR24 FFWD > PLAY > AUTO-REWIND perfectly. In other words, with them after I press PLAY, the video is restored to a point several seconds before when I pressed PLAY so I get to see the video I would have missed because of my reaction time. My particular HR34, except on rare occasion, does not FFWD > PLAY . AUTO-REWIND at all. That bugs the %$#@ out of me. There are other things, too.
     
  4. hdtvfan0001

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    There may be something going on beyond just the unit itself going on in your environment. I have an HR24, HR34, and other HD DVRs...

    The HR34 is just as brisk in operation as the other units, if not faster for a few select functions.
     
  5. inazsully

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    You are saying that the HR34 cannot FF and RW?
     
  6. alcatholic

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    For the Genie, what would be "3x the lease rate," approximately?

    Thank you!
     
  7. inkahauts

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    I haven't heard of anyone being able to actually purchase a genie yet. I don't know if they do that for those. But I'm guessing somewhere in the neighborhood of $900

    No reason to not just lease it.
     
  8. cypherx

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    Wow your right. I mean really for $900 one could build a more powerful, highly customizeable Windows Media Center PC with Ceton cable card tuner.

    I know the genie is kind of like a PC per say... You have a hard drive, memory, some I/O, processor, etc... But for $900 they should of put a multi GHz, multi-core x86 CPU in the thing! Then the UI would be buttery smooth like any other modern day OS .
     
  9. Jacob Braun

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    There is no purchase option for the Genie (unless you are an employee).
     
  10. jibberyerkibber

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    My HR34 does go faster than my HR23 and HR24. What I should have said to be more specific is that my HR34 goes along well for about for or five days and then it slows down dramatically. Then the only thing that I can do to get it back as it should be is to reset it. Then another four or five days and then another reset.
     
  11. jibberyerkibber

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    No. What I am saying is than when I am in the FFWD mode and I then press PLAY to restore real-time, my particular HR34 will not backspace (auto-rewind) a number of seconds to a point in the video several seconds before when I pressed PLAY so as to compensate for my reaction time and let me see what I would have missed because of that reaction time. MY HR23 and HR24 do this perfectly, and always have. Very occasionally, though, my HR34 will FFWD > PLAY > AUTO-REWIND a little bit, but not nearly enough.

    For example, with my HR23 and HR24, let's say I am in the FFWD mode and I press PLAY at 55 seconds into the video, just after something I saw at the 50 second point. The 23 and 24 will auto-rewind and resume the real-time play at, say, 40 seconds so I get see the event that happened at the 50 second point, and what was a little bit before it. My HR34 will resume real-time at 55 seconds so I have to back up to see what was at the 50 second mark. God I hope DTV reads this.
     
  12. Steve

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    Ya. Found when I was using the HR34, 30SKIP was my friend. It bypassed the autocorrect issue for me. Only problem is on the HR34, unlike on the HR2x's, 30SKIP brings up the progress bar, which is annoying when skipping through a game recording.

    The HR34 autocorrect timing has nothing to do with your set-up, BTW.
     
  13. inazsully

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    Is the HR44 also going to be called "Genie"? I mean I know that the HR44 is referred to as Genie in this thread but won't it be confusing when someone calls "D" and orders a Genie? Is the CR going to ask them if the want a HR34 or a HR44? And take the time to explain the differences? Or will the HR34 be rapidly phased out as the HR44 becomes readily available?
     
  14. Scott Kocourek

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    It is called a Genie and you will not be able to ask for a specific model, just like when you call to order an HD DVR.

    If you want a specific model you will have to order from a third party like solidsignal.com
     
  15. Mr. Tact

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    That's somewhat disappointing, but not particularly surprising.

    Assuming I (or anyone else) orders a HR44 from a third party vendor, and then get it activated/connected, as I understand what's been said, it will get labelled as "leased". My question now is -- if I then need a warranty replacement, would D* do that? Or would I have to deal with the third party vendor. And if D* does handle it, am I guaranteed to get not get a HR34 replacement for my HR44?
     
  16. Stuart Sweet

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    When you get equipment from a third-party vendor, it's still considered leased and qualifies for the same repair and replacement options as if you got it from DIRECTV. If you have the protection plan, it just gets replaced; if you are not on the protection plan you generally only have to pay shipping and handling.

    Reliable third party vendors like the ones mentioned here are legitimate DIRECTV dealers and have the absolute right to provide you equipment and you have every right to demand the same level of support from DIRECTV if the equipment fails.
     
  17. Mr. Tact

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    Excuse me for being picky, but when you say "replaced" do you mean it's guaranteed to be the same model? And getting onto the protection plan would/could be part of the process of activating the receiver, right?
     
  18. Stuart Sweet

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    You can get the protection plan by going to DIRECTV.com or speak to the rep when you activate the receiver.

    As I understand it, if a Genie breaks it will be replaced by another Genie. That could be an HR34, or it could be something that hasn't even come out yet if your receiver breaks 3 years from now. This is true whether you go through DIRECTV or a reputable third party. There is no difference.
     
  19. Richierich

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    I would think that an HR44 would be Replaced with another HR44 (could be a different manufacturer but it would still be an HR44 and Not an HR34).

    This is the way it was explained to me by someone at Directv who is very knowledgeable about these things so if that is Not the Case I would like to know, for sure. :)
     
  20. Mike Greer

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    Oh no! Say it isn't so!

    No 'genie' for me then.... I had hopes of someday getting an HR44 but it isn't worth the trouble knowing it could die and be replaced with an HR34 at any time.

    It would be just my luck to pay the $$$ for an HR44, set my slingbox back up because the IR/RF remote would work again and then have it replaced by an HR34....

    Bummer....:(

    What are they thinking?:confused:
     

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