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DBSTalk Exclusive First Look: The Wireless Genie Client C41W-100 & Wireless Video Bridge

Discussion in 'DIRECTV HD DVR/Receiver Discussion' started by Scott Kocourek, Jul 14, 2013.

  1. Jul 18, 2013 #21 of 233
    tpm1999

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    Solidsignals video is back up again. Take a look.

    http://youtu.be/e6NBbbpLdT8
     
  2. Jul 18, 2013 #22 of 233
    Groundhog45

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    It can be on any line from the SWIM16. You can even use a green label splitter on an existing line if you don't have any available ports.
     
  3. Jul 18, 2013 #23 of 233
    peds48

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    you dont need a splitter as the WVB as a pass through
     
  4. Jul 18, 2013 #24 of 233
    damondlt

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    Now I have a Question.

    That mean you have to have a separate wireless Bridge /router for Every C41W?
     
  5. Jul 18, 2013 #25 of 233
    inkahauts

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    Nope.

    That will be determined by how far away from each unit the bridge is and signal issues. For most setups, only one would likely be needed. But if you live in a Mansion and have two on opposite ends of the property or something, then a second may be needed.

    Wireless will be a little tricky in this aspect.
     
  6. Jul 18, 2013 #26 of 233
    harsh

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    It might make more sense for some to Ethernet cable it to the LAN; I'm assuming that is what the RJ45 jack on the WVB is for.

    Another site says that each bridge supports up to five clients (probably not simultaneously) and multiple bridges are supported for larger estates.
     
  7. Jul 18, 2013 #27 of 233
    NR4P

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    The video mentions that the jack may be for future use.
     
  8. Jul 18, 2013 #28 of 233
    peds48

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    in this case I see no difference between using one or the other
     
  9. Jul 18, 2013 #29 of 233
    damondlt

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    My house is 65 x 40 and 3 full floors . Not including the basement!
    Something tells me I'll stick with the Wired Coax with a CCK.
     
  10. Jul 18, 2013 #30 of 233
    inkahauts

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    I see no reason to think that Directv will EVER tell techs to use Ethernet to connect it rather than run a coax to it as expected in general. There is zero benefit to doing it that way and taking part of the mrv out of the deca network and putting it on a customers network creating what often would be a hybrid system. In fact, you then force the customer to have a working router at all times, where as you don't need a router to work with MRV currently. Your theory is a failed one, as you offer not one reasoning for it, and there isn't one when looking at it logically.
     
  11. Jul 18, 2013 #31 of 233
    inkahauts

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    Well, I do believe that this is for people who have a difficult situation and where running a coax is not really possible. A tv out in the pool house might be a prime example of when someone may want wifi system over a wired. I'd say use wired first, but if not possible, wireless does work great in many situations.
     
  12. Jul 18, 2013 #32 of 233
    sum_random_dork

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    So this is to take on the Uverse wireless receiver they have been advertising non-stop. "Take it outside, Take it to the Basement etc." It's a great idea with the growth of people putting TVs outside and trying to add them in other rooms. I really like the idea of being able to have fewer boxes in total per month I pay for but that I can move easily depending on the season or if I have family/friends visiting that need a TV in another room.

    Great first look!
     
  13. Jul 18, 2013 #33 of 233
    Laxguy

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    Dang! That means I'll need ten of 'em; two for each estate......
     
  14. Jul 18, 2013 #34 of 233
    smiddy

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    Nice, I can see a lot of great uses for this puppy!
     
  15. Jul 18, 2013 #35 of 233
    Scott Kocourek

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    I would like to thank everyone that helped put the First Look together. I seem to get the credit but there is a very large group here that all contributes to these. Oh, and I can't forget the person that hangs back in The Shadow, who is there whenever I might need some help. ;)
     
  16. Jul 18, 2013 #36 of 233
    LameLefty

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    Indeed you don't. That's how mine is connected. Works very well that way.

    In my case, which is probably close to the notional "average" WVB-type setup, the wireless client is about 25' linear feet from the the WVB and through a flat panel LCD TV and one interior wall. Works as well as the C41 I had there previously; you'd never know it was a wireless once the setup is complete.
     
  17. Jul 18, 2013 #37 of 233
    cypherx

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    So I see that this bridge creates its own 5 GHz 802.11n network. Can you see and join this network from other 802.11n devices? Is it 40 MHz 300mbps N or 20 MHz 144mbps N channels?

    When on the network, does the wireless bridge itself get its own IP address from your router, or is it completely transparent? If it gets its own IP, is there a web GUI configuration page on the wireless bridge? Just seeing if there's any settings to use it as an access point as well.
     
  18. Jul 18, 2013 #38 of 233
    inkahauts

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    It does everything automatically, and is not meant to be used as a access point for anything else. It will show if you scan for wireless, but its locked up and has a password that's set automatically, you do nothing to make that happen. Do not expect to use it as an access point in any way. If you mess with its settings, you'd likely break the clients ability to see it properly and connect with it.
     
  19. Jul 18, 2013 #39 of 233
    Stuart Sweet

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    The Video Bridge is a set it and forget it device, and really can't be reconfigured for any other purpose. Although it is based on Cisco technology, it runs custom firmware.
     
  20. Jul 18, 2013 #40 of 233
    harsh

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    DIRECTV has very specific needs. The installation licensing requirements unfortunately force alternatives (including using a CCK with a Genie where a direct Ethernet connection is more straightforward).
    There isn't anything about putting WHDS on Ethernet that demands a router. It is DIRECTV's own "Internet Connected" policy that demands a functioning router. DIRECTV's devices to date have all employed the APIPA methodology of self-assigning IP addresses and that's not unique to DECA or WDECA.
     

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