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DBSTalk Exclusive First Look: The Wireless Genie Client C41W-100 & Wireless Video Bridge

Discussion in 'DIRECTV HD DVR/Receiver Discussion' started by Scott Kocourek, Jul 14, 2013.

  1. Jul 18, 2013 #41 of 233
    inkahauts

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    If you expect a customer to run the system through their own home network, then you are saying you expect them to have a working router.

    Unless you are suggesting that directv would run Ethernet cable instead of coax, in which case, well, how do I say it without making you sound like you have no clue what your talking about, but, uh, no, that will never happen as we ALL know, Directv NEVER runs Ethernet cables.
     
  2. Jul 18, 2013 #42 of 233
    tpm1999

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    Maybe with OTT programming directv might run Ethernet....but that's way down the road.
     
  3. Jul 18, 2013 #43 of 233
    peds48

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    and since the Ethernet port is disabled I see no way to get to its GUI
     
  4. Jul 18, 2013 #44 of 233
    cypherx

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    Coax is so much easier to terminate. Spin the thing around and strip it and pop the fitting on and use the tool. Cat 5e, what a pain... Untwist all 8 wires, line them up in the right order, cut them to length, carefully put the end on making sure each wire goes though the right channel, then crimp it.

    I wish gigabit Ethernet ran on coax and switches were all coax!


    Anyway the wireless bridge prolly doesn't get an IP address at all then I guess from what your all saying, I guess it's like a transparent bridge. I thought maybe it would get an IP off the DECA network but I don't really see why it would need one... It's not doing any routing.
     
  5. Jul 19, 2013 #45 of 233
    kaminar

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    Saw some great pics and specs today..this thread more than confirms it. Hooray and kudos to D* for over-delivering. Let's hope the C41W is as much of a hit as the HR44. This will definitely help in several situations:
    1. RG59 homes with multiple drops
    2. Finished basements with sealed walls.
    3. External locations (mentioned in previous posts)

    PS: I've heard the U* wireless receivers don't live up to the hype.

    -=K=-
     
  6. Jul 19, 2013 #46 of 233
    Laxguy

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    Heh. Well, almost definitionally, nothing lives up to hype.... :)

    Moreover, their ads, once amusing, have become tiresome.
     
  7. Jul 19, 2013 #47 of 233
    Stuart Sweet

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    Let me say, this really blows away the U-Verse product. The U-Verse product really has latency issues and the range is far more limited than they suggest. This product is just as responsive as any other Genie Client, believe me I was surprised at that too.
     
  8. Jul 19, 2013 #48 of 233
    tpm1999

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    I think some of the issue with the ATT product may be that they install one end of the bridge directly next to the router (even though you could put it anywhere that is has wiring but doesnt have a box). Being that Directv installers will have more options of where to put the WVB will be a better solution.
     
  9. Jul 19, 2013 #49 of 233
    Laxguy

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    Can the WVB be hung off coax? And/or ethernet?

    And I am shocked, shocked! I tell you, shocked! —ATT's ads are a tad misleading???



    :)
     
  10. Jul 19, 2013 #50 of 233
    NR4P

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    The WVB is connected to the coax in the home.
     
  11. Jul 19, 2013 #51 of 233
    Mike Bertelson

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    The WVB is connected to coax only. It is a DECA device that uses Wi-Fi to connect the C41W to the DECA network. For now that’s its only function.

    The Ethernet port is not currently in use.

    Mike
     
  12. Jul 19, 2013 #52 of 233
    harsh

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    What part of LANs not requiring a router do you not comprehend? LANs get along just fine without a router. It is only when you decide that you want to easily connect your LAN to the Internet that a router may be needed. Switches (or hubs if you have no self respect) are mandatory for an Ethernet LAN but routers are not.

    A router should NOT be considered a bad thing and if you'll recall, DIRECTV can't connect their devices to the Internet (as they are very determined to do) without one.
     
  13. Jul 19, 2013 #53 of 233
    Laxguy

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    Thanks Mike and N4. Yes, quite aware of the function, but wondered what the hookup options were. Ethernet could work if they wanted it to, no? (And I can surmise reasons why coax is the preferred method.)
     
  14. Jul 19, 2013 #54 of 233
    LameLefty

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    And what part of anything you wrote above has anything to do whatsoever with the C41W and its Wireless Video Bridge hardware? Here's a hint: nothing. Just like your personal knowledge of anything Directv-related. You just post to see your own words in print, correct?
     
  15. Jul 19, 2013 #55 of 233
    tpm1999

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    Yet again another dbstalk forum post devolves into trash talking. I wish this site had Reddit style upvotes/downvotes to silence some of the noise.
     
  16. Jul 19, 2013 #56 of 233
    HDSC

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    To Scott and all the known and (unknown participants) that tested this new Client. Thanks for the review and write-up along with the pictures. I know this will work well for me during football season. We have cookouts and we live in a salt water environment so we do not leave anything outside, so I use about 75 feet of coax which somebody is always kicking it or tripping over it or something. Then we take it back inside after the game, unplugging the coax and rolling it back up. Get a few rain shower's and I am screwing in & out coax several times during a game. I can see just using a cart and rolling it out connecting power and "Its GAME on"! I look forward to getting one of these Clients when they are released.
     
  17. Jul 19, 2013 #57 of 233
    LameLefty

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    This will likely be an ideal situation for you. When you get one, just be sure to install the WVB on a coax line nearest your outdoor viewing area with minimal obstructions. I don't think 75' of mostly clear air will be a problem by itself, but if you have an exterior wall plus one or two interior walls, it might be.
     
  18. Jul 19, 2013 #58 of 233
    Laxguy

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    Indeed, Game On!! Send pictures! Maybe you can star in a DIRECTV® ad.... :)
     
  19. Jul 19, 2013 #59 of 233
    lugnutathome

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    The LAN port can be switched on using a Coax connection to get into setup. The coax interface will then be lost once the new port assign goes into effect. It is either/or and works quite well on "Ethernet" (given the "E" in DECA is Ethernet). Doubt one could ever get one professionaly installed in this fashion however and for all practical reasons there would be extremely few reasons why one would need to but, the flexibility and functionality is there. And of course it would not be a supported configuration.

    They did it right!

    Don "I would strongly advise against setting up using this unsupported method" Bolton



     
  20. Jul 19, 2013 #60 of 233
    nike5580

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    Is anyone else seeing the C41W on their account under add/upgrade receivers? I just noticed it that as I was checking over my account.
     

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