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DBSTalk First Look: DISH Hopper and Joey Whole Home HD DVR System

Discussion in 'Hopper System Support Forum' started by James Long, Apr 2, 2012.

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  1. Apr 3, 2012 #21 of 151
    James Long

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    DISH has the manuals on their website - Look for "Hopper" under Quick Reference and Receiver Manuals.
    http://www.mydish.com/Support/manuals

    Correct. You will need a separate antenna feed to the TV (TV signals cannot be combined with the DISH Hopper feeds).

    Correct ... three tuners in a Hopper is a limitation. Many users in our forum have chosen to get two Hoppers in order to keep their tuner count up.

    The shared PTA tuner may help in the evening if two or more of the TVs had people wanting to watch major network programming. DISH advertises it as "six tuners" and it can serve that way if you accept four tuners are the major networks (ABC, CBS, NBC, FOX).

    I'm looking forward to seeing how OTA is integrated.
     
  2. Apr 3, 2012 #22 of 151
    Smuuth

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    Great review, James!
     
  3. Apr 3, 2012 #23 of 151
    kilroyc

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    i was a long time Dish subscriber, and have no real bad things to say about their offering. at&t came into our area and offered a fantastic acquisition deal with no contract. i was basically ready to jump ship because of multiple DVR failures (and losing all of the content).

    all in all, i like u-verse a little better than Dish and have no plans on going back.

    * dish picture quality is slightly better than u-verse
    * u-verse DVR user interface on on-screen menu is definitely nicer
    * found hardware performance to be better with u-verse
    * like my channel line up better w/ at&t

    Glad Dish is bringing the whole home DVR into the fold. I am a fan of theirs, and enjoyed being a customer of theirs. Hope folks find it meets their expectations.
     
  4. Apr 3, 2012 #24 of 151
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    I'm getting my new Hopper Joey system tomorrow. My HD experience started with the vip622 then a vip722K and the infamous vip922. Once the buggy 922 settled I rather enjoyed it, but I must say at times it was tiresome. I'm hoping for a better product out of the box with the Hopper/Joey. Nice job on the essay and review.
     
  5. Apr 3, 2012 #25 of 151
    Stuart Sweet

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    James Long and his team did an exceptional job. Well done, sirs!
     
  6. Apr 4, 2012 #26 of 151
    Tiki God

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    Hi First time poster. I have 5 TVs and am having a 2 Hopper/3 Joey system (i think) installed on Friday. One of the TV's is in a spare bedroom that I hardly use so I don't really need unique programming for that room. As it stands now I have and older PVR unit and it's split between the bedroom and the kitchen so the same programming can be watched on both screens. Is it possible to split a Joey the same way? Or a hopper? If I can eliminate the monthly fee for one of the Joeys it would be great. I'm not tech savvy when it comes to this stuff so please forgive any of my ignorance.
     
  7. Apr 4, 2012 #27 of 151
    Alan Gordon

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    Great First Look...

    I enjoyed reading it immensely! :)

    ~Alan
     
  8. Apr 4, 2012 #28 of 151
    James Long

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    You will have to take care of the split yourself, but yes ... a Hopper or Joey can send the same feed to more than one TV. If the second set is a SD TV adding an RF modulator to the Hopper/Joey and a separate cable to the second set should not be hard - and with all remotes being UHF you don't have to worry about infrared extenders.
     
  9. Apr 4, 2012 #29 of 151
    Tiki God

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    Thanks for the quick response, James!
     
  10. Apr 4, 2012 #30 of 151
    treecastle

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    Nice job and very well done!
     
  11. Apr 4, 2012 #31 of 151
    ClearCom

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    Have a curious question.
    The Joey's do not have the ability to watch live TV, correct? They can only watch was has been recorded. So in essence if a bedroom TV is connected using a Joey, that TV cannot see any live broadcasts?

    If so that is a major drawback, IMO.
    Our simple set-up now is a 722 on two TV's. We are thinking of upgrading to the Hopper/Joey to run a third TV.
     
  12. Apr 4, 2012 #32 of 151
    lparsons21

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    The Joey can do live TV, but it uses a tuner in the Hopper to do it. Excluding PTAT, you can watch 3 live events at a time, one on the Hopper and the other two on the two Joeys.

    In the case of PTAT, you could watch anything that it is recording slightly delayed.
     
  13. Apr 4, 2012 #33 of 151
    mosquitop

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    Am I the only one that finds it ironic that even after all these years of mass adoption of cable and satellite systems with gobs of channels for every type of programming, a satellite receiver is designed to record the primetime from the 4 broadcast networks? Seems like things have come full circle in a way....

    Nice review -- it did answer all my questions in one place!
     
  14. Apr 4, 2012 #34 of 151
    mdavej

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    Great job. Thanks for taking the time to put that together.
     
  15. Apr 4, 2012 #35 of 151
    dmspen

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    Some questions...
    If I'm watching a recorded event via Joey in the bedroom and pause/stop, then go into the kitchen, can I go to DISH on my iPad and pick up where I left off? Yes I have a Sling adapter. (This is one of the wifes current complaints!).

    I think the answer is Yes?

    What about EHDs? Connect only to Hopper and accessible via Joey? Since there's 2 USBs and an eSata connector on the back of the Hopper, can you connect multiple EHDs?

    What's the purpose of the USB port on the Joey?
    What is the purpose of two Ethernet ports on the Joey and the ethernet port on the Joey if they use MOCA?

    Will an EHD from my 722k now work with the Hopper?

    Interestingly enought there is no Joey manual on the DISH website. The basic connectivity and usage mentioned in the Hopper manual says nothing about the ethernet or USB ports on the Joey.
     
  16. Apr 4, 2012 #36 of 151
    tblankenship

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    Thanks for the great review. I'll be waiting for an OTA version.
     
  17. Apr 4, 2012 #37 of 151
    Stevie

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    Was wondering when DISH was going to step forward with something like this.
     
  18. Apr 4, 2012 #38 of 151
    ITSCdanimal

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    Great review bro!

    I have a question - I have a ViP622 with a 750GB hard drive connected to the USB port, which is basically full. Will I be able to view all of my recorded content from the hard drive if I get the new hopper system? Thanks!!!
     
  19. Apr 4, 2012 #39 of 151
    P Smith

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    Right here http://www.dbstalk.com/showthread.php?t=203723
     
  20. Apr 4, 2012 #40 of 151
    jaycruce

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    Great review! Thanks for time and effort.
     
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