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DBSTalk First Look: HR21-700

Discussion in 'DIRECTV HD DVR/Receiver Discussion' started by Earl Bonovich, Oct 16, 2007.

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  1. Nov 1, 2007 #581 of 690
    sat4r

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    Hi Jeremy The software version is 0X18a upgraded 9/14 Now I will have to wait for VOD. I connected to the internet instantly and have MEDIA SHARE but no VOD. I tried the IWANTMYVOD then pressing MENU INFO button but nothing appeared. Thanks AL
     
  2. Nov 2, 2007 #582 of 690
    Jeremy W

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    You're not supposed to have VOD, and you're also not supposed to have that software. You need to force a download.
     
  3. Nov 2, 2007 #583 of 690
    sat4r

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    Thanks At this time the unit is downloading 016D
     
  4. Nov 2, 2007 #584 of 690
    hdtvfan0001

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    that is the most current firmware version - 16D.
     
  5. Nov 2, 2007 #585 of 690
    sat4r

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    Thanks AL
     
  6. Nov 2, 2007 #586 of 690
    sat4r

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    Thanks for all your help , the unit is working great and all the issues I had have been corrected. AL
     
  7. Nov 2, 2007 #587 of 690
    hdtvfan0001

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    Please note that the firmware continues to mature.

    The HR21 is a fine unit indeed, and we'll all continue to see improvements and even more enhancements as these updates roll out over time.
     
  8. Nov 2, 2007 #588 of 690
    sailermon

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    Sorry if this is a stupid question, but why connect HR20/HR21 to TV with HDMI if components will deliver the highest resolution you can get (1080i) anyway?
     
  9. Nov 2, 2007 #589 of 690
    hdtvfan0001

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    Not a stupid question.

    HDMI is the most common and preferred method of connections to 1080i or higher resolution displays for several reasons. That said, component is also a good choice, as the quality of the images is very very near HDMI's data transmission.

    There are some differences in how each type of connection handles standard resolution (not HD) channel images, but again, it also depends on the display's ability to process the signal in either setup.

    Alot has to do with the device itself, and how it handles 1080i imagery, as well as what kinds and numbers of connections are available.

    You really can't go wrong either way overall....HDMI, of course also can reduce the # of cables by one, but that benefit has not really been the main one driving the market anyway.
     
  10. Nov 2, 2007 #590 of 690
    houskamp

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    easy.. 1 cable... so much cleaner, and pic quality is the same..
     
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    sailermon

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    Well, it's not one cable when you are not using the inferior TV speakers and need to get audio to the receiver and you have an older one that does not have HDMI input.
    This requires optical audio out from the HR21 to the receiver and the DVD recorder.
     
  12. Nov 3, 2007 #592 of 690
    2rivers

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    Just got my HR21 installed today, replacing a Series II DirecTivo, my what a change! Downloaded the new firmware as soon as set up.

    Now, can someone please tell me (or point me to) about the networking side of it. I mean, what is available so far? Pictures/MP3's is what I have seen, perhaps through WMP11; is that right? So, nothing else needed now on the 21 for this, like you must have VIIV?

    And VOD is coming soon; they are in beta now?

    Thanks
     
  13. Nov 3, 2007 #593 of 690
    TheRatPatrol

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    Well....I have a bad feeling that the HR20's are on their way out (well ok maybe).

    I was at Costco 2 weeks ago and they didn't have any HR20's left. I was in there today and they had a pallet of brand new HR21's. I talked the guy that works at the D* kios and he didn't know that they took the OTA tuners out, and was pretty shocked about it, but was very grateful for my knowledgeable information about it......all thanks to this website of course. :D

    So, as I've said before, if you see an HR20 and want another one, I suggest you get them now, because you never know, they might be gone later.
     
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    Rich

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    I think El Hombre is right about the replacement HR20s. The last 6 HR20s I have received have all been 100s. I'm getting another replacement Monday and I'd be shocked if it wasn't a 100. And equally shocked if it works correctly.

    I would love to see a 21 show up. If this one doesn't work, I think I'll call the magic number and see if my frustration and anger will earn me a free 21.


     
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    Rich

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    I gotta ask. If you got one coax thru why not two? What possible condition could stop you?

     
  16. Nov 3, 2007 #596 of 690
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    I can't see any difference between HDMI and component on my three Panny plasmas or my Hi Def tube set. I never saw any difference between S-Video cables and the composite wires either.

    I did buy a 37" Vizio and the picture in SD was unwatchable. The plasmas and the CRT have really good SD and great HD. The Vizio's HD was acceptable. And it made a great computer monitor, but I took it back the next day because of the SD picture quality.

    The one thing that I have noticed is that you can see the difference in PQ depending on the "contrast ratio". I purchased a DCL 19" LED monitor with a CR of 1000:1 for my wife's computer and liked it so much I went to Costco's website and purchased what I thought was the identical model. When it arrived, it looked exactly like hers and I quickly hooked it up and was immediately disappointed by the PQ. Looked in the manual and found out that I had purchased the 700:1 CR model. Returned it for the 1000:1 and got the same PQ as the wife's did. Contrast Ratio (I have no clear idea what that means) is apparently not something to be ignored.

    That Vizio had a low CR, while the Panny's are all 10,000:1 and the CRT doesn't list CR in it's specs. I do know that the largest (60") Vizio has a 7000:1 and is next to a 58" Panny 10,000:1 in my favorite store, hooked up to the same source. The difference in PQ in Hi Def is noticeable.
     
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    My Costco is still selling the 20s. If this replacement ordeal doesn't improve soon I'll buy a 21 on line. Wonder how long you have to activate the units after purchase?

     
  18. Nov 4, 2007 #598 of 690
    hdtvfan0001

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    Keep in mind there is an HR20-700 and HR20-100. One may be phased out (the -700?), but so far, there is absolutely no reason to believe both will be gone.

    As stated in other threads, D*TV has both in stock and is still installing them both, and the -100 model is confirmed as still being manufactured per Earl.

    There is also an equal possibility that if and when the HR20 series is sunset, a new OTA-supported model could be released.
     
  19. Nov 6, 2007 #599 of 690
    petej88

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    1080P is very useful for "HD DVD", "BD", and 1080P PC connections. And if you have a receiver that can up convert to 1080P, it might be uesful if the receiver does it better than your tv.
     
  20. Nov 6, 2007 #600 of 690
    hdtvfan0001

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    All true.

    As someone one who also enjoys his HD DVD...I couldn't agree more that the imagery is nothing shy of spectacular. Unfortunately, despite these exceptions - the HD content broadcast world is still years away in adoption of 1080p.

    The HR21-700 does an impressive job with 1080i imagery on a corresponding HD display.
     
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