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DBSTalk First Look: Slimline3 ODU

Discussion in 'DIRECTV General Discussion' started by RobertE, Jul 23, 2008.

  1. Jul 23, 2008 #1 of 235
    RobertE

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    Back at the end of March, Earl opened a thread about the Slimline 3 aka SL3 after it showed up in the CE releases. See thread http://www.dbstalk.com/showthread.php?t=124403

    Well, now more information is available about the Slimline 3.

    So, I’m presenting you all with a Sneak Peak/Preview of the Slimline 3.

    First I’ll go over known items then I’ll go into some personal speculation.

    SL3 LNB. “Sees” 3 orbital locations 99/101/103. Does not and will not see 110/119 locations.

    Four outputs on the LNB. Just like today’s Phase III, AT9 & AU9 ODUs.

    Fully compatible with the WB68, WB616 & SWM5/8 switches. Also compatible with current receivers. Note: You will need a H20, HR20 or R22 or newer receiver to get any programming from the 99/103 locations. A future D series receiver may or may not be released that will see 99/103.

    Installation is nearly identical to that of the AT9/AU9 with the exception that the tilt is preset on the ground based on zip code. There is no “need” to adjust the tilt after installation. That is of course predicated on the mast being plumb.

    Update 7/24
    Beginning on 7/31, HSPs in 72.5 and SD Local markets will start seeing Work Order Activities with the SL3

    The SL3 began shipping this week to the affected HSP offices.


    Now for my speculation/educated guesses.

    This dish is set to be the standard installation dish for both SD & HD installs in markets where locals are beamed from the 99/101/103 locations. In those markets where locals come from 110/119, you will still get the AU9.
    This should simplify and reduce the number of dishes that should have to be stocked and carried daily by techs. DirecTv will go from four ODUs being installed: 18”, Phase III, World Direct, & Ka/Ku ODUs down to just two: SL3 & AU9. I’m assuming that at some point international programming will be moved either to 99/103 or to 110/119 or both. My bet will be 99/103. You can put a good number of SD channels on a few Ka transponders. DirecTv 12 maybe?

    While I don’t have exact measurements of the ODU itself, from the material I do have, it appears to be identical in size and shape of the current Slimline. So for those of you (me included) hoping for a smaller lighter ODU, sorry.

    The LNB is pretty simple as well. Take the AT9 LNB, remove the 110/119 sidecar jumpers and there you go. The illustration looks very similar. At this point, don’t assume that you can re-run the sat setup and select the Slimline 3 from the setup and expect things to work ok. It is unknown at this point as to what changes, if any, have been made to the control signals.

    I do also believe there will be a SWM version of the LNB as well.

    I do not have a time frame for availability or cost.

    The pictures were photoshopped to add the DBSTalk.com Text. Other than that, they are as they appear in the training materials.

    Enjoy & discuss.

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  2. Jul 23, 2008 #2 of 235
    Mertzen

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    So will it still use 2" mast and require monopoles ? I think that is the main concern from techs.
     
  3. Jul 23, 2008 #3 of 235
    RobertE

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    From what I can tell, yes. :(

    The only difference that I've been able to discern so far is that it's just a different LNB. Everything else is the same.
     
  4. Jul 23, 2008 #4 of 235
    Tom Robertson

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    The dish, base, and mast are identical to the other Slimline units, as far as I know.

    (And anyone with a sidecar, please don't unplug your sidecar. It will not work the same as the Slimline 3.)

    Cheers,
    Tom
     
  5. Jul 23, 2008 #5 of 235
    hdtvfan0001

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    Before anyone brings it up...yes...it also includes HR21 series HD DVR support...

    Great Job Robert!
     
  6. Jul 23, 2008 #6 of 235
    Mertzen

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    Meh, That really is a bummer. Many of us hoped that once this dish came out it would use the same OD as the phase 3 / 18" so upgrades would be dish off dish on. Oh well as long as HD jobs get extra pay it makes not that much difference.
    So where's he pics at ?
     
  7. Jul 23, 2008 #7 of 235
    Stuart Sweet

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    Well done Robert! I'm pleased to change the title of this thread and include it with other first looks!
     
  8. Jul 23, 2008 #8 of 235
    MIAMI1683

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    Robert,

    Thanks again for all the information. As always it's a big help
     
  9. Jul 23, 2008 #9 of 235
    Greg Alsobrook

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    Nice job Robert! Thanks for the info.!
     
  10. Jul 23, 2008 #10 of 235
    jodyguercio

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    These two beat me to it but still good job. Keep us updated.
     
  11. Jul 23, 2008 #11 of 235
    Michael D'Angelo

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    Nice job Robert and thanks for the info!!!
     
  12. Jul 23, 2008 #12 of 235
    Doug Brott

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    Robert, thanks for the update.
     
  13. Jul 23, 2008 #13 of 235
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    This really looks rather quickly done. With the viewing angle so vastly reduced I don't see why they don't work on a smaller reflector.
     
  14. Jul 23, 2008 #14 of 235
    RobertE

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    Somewhat surprised myself that it's doesn't appear smaller.

    While I'm no engineer, I imagine the kept it the same size for a couple of reasons. One they need as much space as OTARD will allow to get the most gain from the Ka beam. Then they already have the design & manufacturing process in place for everything other than the LNB. Some minor tweaks to the AT9 LNB and presto, a cheaper dish.
     
  15. Jul 23, 2008 #15 of 235
    evan_s

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    Can you provide any info on why you say this now that the slimline is released? My assumption is it has to do with the guide data and the simplest solution I see for the Slimline 3 is to just put 101 on both the no tone and tone sides of things.
     
  16. Jul 23, 2008 #16 of 235
    kevinturcotte

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    Outside...
    So is this going to be as simple as an LNB swap out if we already have a peaked AU9 dish?
     
  17. Jul 23, 2008 #17 of 235
    RobertE

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    I would assume so, but I don't see any reason why one would want to do so. You won't gain anything.
     
  18. Jul 23, 2008 #18 of 235
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    I doubt any swaps will be done as all existing Ka/Ku dishes are already getting 99 / 101 / 103.

    This is just a new product for markets with SD locals on 101 that have no need for 110/119.
     
  19. Jul 23, 2008 #19 of 235
    kevinturcotte

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    They get our local CW in HD on D11, I have no more use for 110 or 119.
     
  20. Jul 23, 2008 #20 of 235
    Tom Robertson

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    You choose wisely... ;)
     

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