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DBSTalk First Look: Slimline3 ODU

Discussion in 'DIRECTV General Discussion' started by RobertE, Jul 23, 2008.

  1. Jul 24, 2008 #61 of 235
    CJTE

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    Its going to be very interesting when a customer with an SL3 calls in to DirecTV and they rerun the sat setup and then dont know if the customer has a 5LNB or a SL3.
     
  2. Jul 24, 2008 #62 of 235
    RobertE

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    Not sure. I just know that Cleveland is not one of them, but where my parents are is. :)
     
  3. Jul 24, 2008 #63 of 235
    Alan Gordon

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    110 doesn't have spot-beams (to my knowledge)... 119 does though, and there are a considerable amount (40+ I think) on 119.

    ~Alan
     
  4. Jul 24, 2008 #64 of 235
    Christopher Gould

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    this is a very old subject but D* and E* need to work out that long ago transponder swap. D* gives E* the 3 at 110 giving them all 32 and E* gives 3 from 119 for D* a total of 14 at 119. Cuts one satellite for D* and give E* a little more room on there largest Ku slot.
     
  5. Jul 24, 2008 #65 of 235
    CJTE

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    And the people who cant receive 119?
     
  6. Jul 24, 2008 #66 of 235
    TheRatPatrol

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    Does the SL3 have an LNB that can receive Ka signals from 101? I know the current LNB's can't.

    Thanks
     
  7. Jul 24, 2008 #67 of 235
    Tom Robertson

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    No, no Ka from 101° on any of the current dishes for the home. Only for the regional and national broadcast centers. (And they are typically 9m, more than 9x a home dish.) :)

    Cheers,
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  8. Jul 25, 2008 #68 of 235
    harsh

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    They should be available before the end of the year through the normal retail channels
    It is no easier to set up than the AU9 but it should be a little lighter. You won't be able to set the dish and level it and hope that it will work. It will have to be dialed in.
     
  9. Jul 25, 2008 #69 of 235
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    It's a little bit easier since the tilt doesn't have to be as precise.
     
  10. Jul 25, 2008 #70 of 235
    harsh

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    Tilt is not a parameter that typically requires dialing in. Set it carefully according to the numbers and it will probably work well enough without fine tuning. If you are someone who likes to dial it in, having 119W out there to shoot at is a bonus reference point.
     
  11. Jul 25, 2008 #71 of 235
    tkrandall

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    Because there are likely many existing or potential core and HD programming customers east of the Mississippi who cannot get a good line sight to 110w or 119w, or cannot simultaneously get 99/101/103 AND 110 AND 119 all at the same time from one spot. That is a large look angle and trees and terrain in the eastern U.S. can make that very difficult at times. I, for one, a 5 year customer, am starting to lose 110W due to a large oak tree's growth, and I have no other location on my property to pick up 101/110/119 or 110/119 at the same time. DISH is not an option for me either.

    another example from this thread, also in the Atlanta area:
    It makes sense to me for DTV to put all of the ethnic programming on 110 and 119, along with perhaps keeping some SD locals there for some markets, especially in the west. Making only 99/101/103 required for 80% or 90% of its SD/HD customers base would seem like a smart thing for them to do, and even would be a competetive advantage for them over DISH in the eastern U.S. (higher elevation line of sight means the abilty to serve more potential customers).
     
  12. Jul 25, 2008 #72 of 235
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    I have two SD TIVOs and an HR20, along with a Slimline AU9. I am losing 110W signal due to an oak tree's growth (still comes in but weak - 50s/60s). So ESPN, HD theater and a couple others are less reliable now. I shoot a gap between tree for 119W which is still strong. So if I understand it right, I get some of my guide data now off of 119? What about after D11 goes live and all legacy HD's are at least mirrored on 99/103? If I keep my AU9 dish will I still "need" LOS to 119 for the guide data?

    If that would be the only use of 119 at that point, then a SL3 would seem to make sense for my situation.
     
  13. Jul 25, 2008 #73 of 235
    bobnielsen

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    So with a SWM, the sidecar could be removed from an AT-9? I'm not planning to do that, but one wonders.
     
  14. Jul 25, 2008 #74 of 235
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    This will be a home brew project but I'm going to build a 99/101/103 dish with the smallest reflector I can get, I have one out of a tracker unit thats around 12"x 15" square just for starters.

    It will only be for good weather (clear sky).

    I will post pictures and signal levels if successful. :)
     
  15. Jul 25, 2008 #75 of 235
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    By odd coincidence, a DTV installer was at my house yesterday for a free upgrade to HD, and canceled the installation because he could not get a LOS to all five locations. There are places, however, that will pick up 99/101/103. My locals are listed on the DTV website as being available in HD, so I am assuming they come from one of those three satellites. Any guesses on when D* will be willing to install one of these dishes in my area?
     
  16. Jul 25, 2008 #76 of 235
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    Posted earlier in the thread it might be possible as soon as 7/30.
     
  17. Jul 25, 2008 #77 of 235
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    Someone on this board should know which sat locations Chapel Hill NC std def locals come from. If they are 101 and not 119, you should be good with the new SL3.
     
  18. Jul 25, 2008 #78 of 235
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    Thanks, I'm pretty sure that the SD locals for my area come from 101, if Lyngsat is to be believed, and I think that it is in this case. I was wondering if there was any chance that HD locals could be beamed from 110 or 119. I wouldn't think so, but I don't know enough about the subject to rule that out.

    I was also unsure about this wording:

    "HSPs in 72.5 and SD Local markets will start seeing Work Order Activities with the SL3"

    If SD Local markets means SD-only locals, then technically my area would not apply, since my zip is listed as having HD locals on D*'s website (though Lyngsat doesn't show any HD locals for my area on any of the satellites). I'm not sure why there would be such a restriction, unless some HD locals do come from 110 or 119. Is there another reason?
     
  19. Jul 25, 2008 #79 of 235
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    The only hd "Locals" on 110/119 are the New York and LA locals that are used as distant feeds. All other locals are on 99 or 103 off of one of the Ka Sats.
     
  20. Jul 25, 2008 #80 of 235
    Birdman79

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    We were told that by the beginning of next year we would have a new slimline as small as an 18x20 for 99,101,103,that won't require the use of monopoles.I cross my fingers and hope it's true.:)
     

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