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Death of DVD Media

Discussion in 'The OT' started by 1953, Sep 1, 2012.

Will DVD Media Succumb to Streaming (muti-choice)

  1. All DVD (I do mean all, in all industries)

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  2. Home DVD entertainment only (Thing the gravity of such a change)

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  3. Partial

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  4. No

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  5. Yes

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  6. Would you prefer streaming to DVD's?

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  7. No Opinion

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  8. A major infrusture shift

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  9. Some percentage of the general public would not be receptive

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  10. Yes, for a niche market

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    28.8%
Multiple votes are allowed.
  1. Sackchamp56

    Sackchamp56 Godfather

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    Its all about quality to me, and nothing comes close to blu-ray at the moment. Ten more years of bandwidth increases might change my mind. Who knows.
     
  2. MysteryMan

    MysteryMan Well-Known Member DBSTalk Club

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    I doubt very much that physical media will be replaced by streaming anytime soon. Too many factors come into play. Mainly broadband availability. A significant portion of the population have no acess to it. Living in a very rural area I myself lived without broadband until 2008 when Time Warner expanded it's territory. Also streaming doesn't provide the extras that physical media does (audio selections, booklets, bonus features, ect.). I recently purchased a copy of 12 Angry Men on DVD and was pleasantly surprised to find it included a CD containing music from the year of the film's release. Everyone thought vinyl was dead when CDs arrived. But because of demand by a select group they are still available and in production though not on as a large scale as they were before CDs. It's going to be some time before BluRay, CD, and DVD goes the way of VHS and cassette tapes.
     
  3. AntAltMike

    AntAltMike Hall Of Fame

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    Death of DVD? You mean I'm going to have to choose another brand of underware?

    I just heard that Sony Walkman sales aren't what they used to be.
     
  4. hdtvfan0001

    hdtvfan0001 Well-Known Member

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    You might want to think about popping those 8-tracks on eBay soon as well...
     
  5. SayWhat?

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    Don't know what that is.


    I think all forms of discs will go the way of the 8 track and BetaMax. As noted above, the discs will degrade over time and the optics needed to read them still need maintenance, although certainly nothing like tape heads did.

    I see a switch to a chip/card of some kind along the lines of XD cards or the authentication cards Dish uses. No degradation, no physical head required to read them.

    Rentals could even be done that way if the chip/card was rewriteable. Instead of the current Redbox type vending machine, you would insert your card to have the machine download/write the movie to your card.

    Netflix could use them also. Mailing a credit card sized device would cost them a lot less than a DVD and they wouldn't have to be returned. They could be programmed for a number of plays or days, after which they would become unusable.
     
  6. SayWhat?

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    The recent FCC report shows only about 10% of households have no access at all. That only deals with physical access/availability, not with how many actually subscribe to some type of service. I would imagine the percentage of households that have access, but don't subscribe is much higher. And then there are those who subscribe, but have some sort of bandwidth cap or slower speed that prevents them from streaming regularly. And of course, how many only use broadband for traditional browsing but don't have any type of streaming device?
     
  7. Herdfan

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    Not if you watch it and it sits on your shelf never to be touched again.

    If there is a newer release I have to watch, I just go to Blockbuster. $1.99.

    Otherwise, I just wait until it comes on one of the movie channels and record it. I have a DVR dedicated to nothing but movies.

    My daughter on the other hand buys BR's. Mainly so she can get the digital copy and watch it multiple times on her phone. :confused:
     
  8. Sixto

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    Can't remember the last time anyone in the family bought a DVD, and don't have a blue-ray player (other then in the kid's PS3).

    We've totally moved to disc free ... DirecTV Cinema, Apple TV, Netflix, FiOS Flexview ...

    Personally, I mostly use 1080p DirecTV Cinema for anything not on HBO/Cinemax/Showtime/Starz, I haven't played yet with FiOS Flexview, and the kids are very much into streaming with the Apple TV and Netflix.

    Haven't missed physical media at all, which is why I never bought a blue-ray player, which is very odd because I usually want/have the best A/V gear available no matter the cost. Just haven't seen any need for physical media, seems too cumbersome.
     
  9. Carl Spock

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    I'm a vinyl guy.

    I expected to buy my last turntable in the 1980s. I was sure I wouldn't be able to buy records after the 1990s. Nobody has been more surprised by the resurgence of vinyl records than I.

    There are three buyers of records today.

    One it the club DJ. Nothing beats mixing a dance groove using vinyl.

    Another group are old farts like me who never stopped buying lp records.

    But by far the biggest proponents of vinyl today are people younger than 30. They think that vinyl is hot. They like how visual it is, with the covers and artwork . It's mechanical. Jackets fold out and tonearms need to be moved over to the record. Most hear how it sounds a lot better than the Mp3s they've been listening to. Some even know a record can beat a CD. Young bands issue 45s and lps of their recordings, sometimes in lieu of the CD, having downloads the only other way to get their music. Joe Walsh's new record, Analog Man? That was available on lp three weeks before you could buy the CD. Records are big, physical, funky and just plain cool.

    In a world where media is all bits and data, I wouldn't bet against the future of physical representations, be they CDs, DVDs or lps. If I had money to burn, I'd bet in the return of the instant camera.
     
  10. Sixto

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    Interesting, I didn't think you could even find a vinyl record in the past 10+ years.

    Interesting.
     
  11. Rich

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    My son goes to movies all the time and he still buys BDs. He's got his own NetFlix account and could easily order the same BD there. We don't go to the movies, I find the cost appalling. And I don't like sticky floors... :lol:

    We can order the same disc over and over with our NF account.

    Rich
     
  12. Rich

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    That's the kind of logic that stops me from buying a lot of discs. I think you hit that right on the button.

    Rich
     
  13. Carl Spock

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    Here are some places you can buy vinyl online. Many of these stores also sell hardware.

    Interpunk Records
    (I said this was a young person's pheonomenon.)

    Soundstage Direct

    Acoustic Sounds

    The Needle Doctor
    (Just hardware but after always just sort of being there for years, they've now become huge.)

    And of course, Amazon
    (With 90,029 results. You'll see the first two are the new Dylan and Mumford & Sons records.)
     
  14. Rich

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    I use the Samsung BD players more for streaming than playing discs. They upscale to 1080p 60Fps and I think the PQ is as good or better than D*'s 1080i. I've tried every streaming device, even the LG (don't go there), and nothing compares to the Sammys for PQ. I think.

    Rich
     
  15. Rich

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    I know several people that swear by vinyl. I'm not big on music, but I have heard the vinyl and it does sound better. We played the same CD as the vinyl version and I could hear the difference. The vinyl just sounded mellower. My friend did have a really high end sound system.

    Rich
     
  16. Rich

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    You can find just about anything within a 30 mile circle from my house. That would include NYC. There are still stores in the City that sell vinyl.

    The plant I used to work in is only a mile away from my house. When they built it, it was sited there because just about anything you could possibly need was close at hand.

    Rich
     
  17. Nick

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    The old 'trick' question, "How many grooves on a standard LP?", leads me to my own life-long nagging question, how the hell does a wiggly, squiggly groove pressed in vinyl faithfully recreate the infinitely varied and complex sounds of an 80-piece orchestra, or the dynamic vocal ranges of a Barbra Striesand or Celine Dione?

    It's still a mystery to me and certainly not a question to be lightly shrugged off.

    ...and don't get me started on the impossibility of paper speaker cones or iincredibly tiny headphone or earpiece diaphragms.
     
  18. SayWhat?

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    There's really nothing like vinyl. CDs are cleaner for sure, but almost too clean, too processed and engineered.

    Aside from the hiss and popping, you can hear things on LPs that don't come out in overprocessed CDs. Things that you probably weren't supposed to hear.

    And let's not even go into the time when bands actually played together in the studio and recorded live instead of one at a time, days or weeks apart. When the engineer working the mixing board was almost as much a part of the performance as the band.
     
  19. Carl Spock

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    I didn't want to derail this thread into a discussion of vinyl. My purpose was to say (1) you can never tell what the future will bring, and (2) I wouldn't count out physical mediums in any form, but especially archival ones which appeal to the human senses and heart.
     
  20. Drucifer

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    Sorry, I'm only 50+ miles from NYC and streaming is poor at best.

    Until hi-speed streaming is easily accessible everywhere, DVDs or whatever HW that will replace it, will be around for a long while.

    Just look at telephone poles. I don't think one has come down.
     

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