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DECA and MRV internet connected without a dedicated DECA module for the internet

Discussion in 'DIRECTV Connected Home' started by davel, Aug 11, 2010.

  1. The Merg

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    As long as it is connected to the Internet, you'll be fine.

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  2. veryoldschool

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    Yes, "unless" the reason you're having problems doing this is because of something else.
    The added switch and using the correct port of the DVR, will act the same as if you were using either a DECA network with internet access via the DECA broadband bridge, or a simple ethernet network. I've used both of these to order PPV and simply clicked "buy" to watch them.
    Now for the "something else", this may be due to your router and a resetting of it might resolve this.
    As I posted, I have tried using the second port and it would cause my router to lockup completely, crashing the whole network. Moving the connection to the first port stopped this from happening.
     
  3. ewto16

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    Well I can get on demand shows and anything else other than ppv, so I assume I'm conne fed now but it appears my receivers aren't making the callback based on talking to a case manager today. They haven't reported in since being installed.

    Are there any particular network settings that need to be applied in my router? Do I need to give the receivers particular ip addresses? Currently set to dhcp. Do I need to forward any ports through the linksys firewall?

    To recap the only real change I need to make, in theory, is to take the ethernet wire from the deca and put it in my router and run an ethernet wire from my router to port 1 on the receiver. I assume I need to reboot the receivers after that.
     
  4. veryoldschool

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    Let me "recap":
    the second port of the DVR simply doesn't work correctly as a link to a router. "end of report".
    If you're not going to use a switch to have both the DVR, the DECA, and the router all connect, then what you've posted above in your recap, would have the DVR be on your home network and the DECA be powered by the DVR, but will shift to being your broadband DECA connection for the rest of your DECA coax network. This will mean all your MRV traffic from this receiver will be routed through your router. Using a switch would mean the MRV traffic would go from the receiver to the switch and then to the DECA. All internet traffic from your receivers would be sent to the router from the switch.
     
  5. ewto16

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    I see. So if I run them into a separate switch then the deca traffic stays isolated to that switch. Does it really matter if I send it through the router or not? Is it going to make that much traffic or have issues with speed if it goes through the router? I have a pretty standard home network with a linksys n router and I think has gigabit connections.

    Thanks for all your help so far by the way.
     
  6. veryoldschool

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    "Maybe not"
    Maybe it would depend somewhat on what other traffic you have on your home network.
     
  7. ewto16

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    I am ridiculously sick so I wont get to this for a few days. Really want to try it
     
  8. ewto16

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    I finally got this setup as suggested in the post below, but it appears that it still won't let me order PPV movies. I still get the big blue box that indicates that my receiver isn't connected to the Internet.

    When I talked to someone at DirecTV, they indicated that my receivers aren't making a successful callback. Can they not callback in this configuration?

    http://www.dbstalk.com/showthread.php?p=2459468#post2459468
     
  9. The Merg

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    So you are using one DECA for a receiver and sharing that DECA to connect to your home network? As you can see from the post, this is an unsupported method for MRV and with anything that is unsupported, there can be issues. Do you not have a DECA and PI that you can use for bridging your receivers to your home network?

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  10. ewto16

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    No, the tech didn't set it up that way when he did the original setup. I have three DECA units, one for each HD-DVR receiver that I have.

    Right now one DECA unit has the Ethernet cable running into my router. That router runs to a switch, which then has Ethernet out to my HD-DVR. That same DECA unit is still plugged into the SAT1 input to run the TV.

    Are you saying I should have a fourth DECA unit that runs by itself into the network? Technically, if I'm running the one into the network router, shouldn't the other two HD-DVRs (not directly connected to this DECA) work correctly?

    I can understand if the one DVR that is hooked up to the DECA cloud by an ethernet cable not working, but the other two would be configured exactly the same as in the other setup. The only difference is the DECA unit runs into the one HD-DVR.

    I've been told by DTV that my receivers aren't making the callback. Do I need to open some ports on the router firewall to enable that or something?

    Thanks!!
     
  11. The Merg

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    Basically, with your setup, you are having MRV traffic going out onto your home network as opposed to staying on the DECA cloud.

    I would contact DirecTV and tell them that you need another DECA and PI (the Cinema Connection Kit) so that you can hook up your receivers correctly. Also, check your account on-line and look up your order for the MRV install. If it states on there that you are getting the Internet Connection Kit or Cinema Connection Kit, it should have been installed. The worst that will happen is that they might charge you $25 for the kit. They might also want an installer to come out an install it for $50, but you should be able to get them to just mail it out to you.

    As for opening ports, that shouldn't be an issue. Once you have a correct setup, I would gather that you shouldn't have an issue at that point.

    One last thing is to contact DirecTV and verify that your account is set up to allow ordering of PPV via the remote and on-line.

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  12. ewto16

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    Supposedly my account is set to order PPV on-line and via the remote. I've had them enable the IPPV option a couple of times.

    The issue I have with adding another dedicated DECA adapter is that I'll need to run another line into my house from the splitter. Right now I don't have an open line. So that means drilling a hole in the house and feeding wire somewhere...
     
  13. The Merg

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    Nope. You just need another green label two-way splitter and two small coax cables. The current feed to that DECA right now would have a splitter put on it. One output would go to the DECA that is connected to the receiver. The other output would go to the Broadband DECA. The Broadband DECA would ouput to the PI and the CAT5 that goes to your router. You would then be able to get rid of the extra switch.

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  14. ewto16

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    PI is power inserter? Basically an electrical plug adapter, right? Sounds like I'm going to need a tech visit to handle this or buy some stuff online to do it. Do you have any links to the stuff I would need to buy for this? I hate allocating a half day to a tech for all this when I could do it in 10 minutes.
     
  15. veryoldschool

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    http://www.solidsignal.com/pview.as...0-MHz)&c=Satellite Splitters&sku=874409002404

    http://www.solidsignal.com/pview.as...DECA--(DECA1MR01)&c=Satellite Components&sku=

    http://www.solidsignal.com/pview.as...DER0)&c=Satellite Components&sku=874409002374

    http://www.solidsignal.com/pview.as...ension-Cable-(950602)&c=RG-6 Coax Cables&sku=

    You may be able to find better prices, but these are what you should look for.
     
  16. The Merg

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    You should be able to get the DECA and PI from DirecTV. The splitter you can get from Solid Signal as VOS pointed out. While you can also get the coax from there as well, you can get it cheaper from Monoprice.com.

    1.5 ft cable
    http://www.monoprice.com/products/p...=10216&cs_id=1021603&p_id=5359&seq=1&format=2

    3 ft cable
    http://www.monoprice.com/products/p...=10216&cs_id=1021603&p_id=3030&seq=1&format=2

    With these components, you should be able to easily set up all this by yourself if you want to.

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