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Delay changing SD Channels

Discussion in 'General DISH™ Discussion' started by MonkeyMD, Apr 15, 2007.

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  1. MonkeyMD

    MonkeyMD New Member

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    My problem is a delay of 10-20 seconds when changing channels on SD only. HD is fine. The only channels not affected that I know of are 106,107.

    I have a VIP211 with L3.45 software. I am relatively new to this, so I don't know what other info to include.

    Nothing has changed in my setup except that some technicians came and replaced something - I don't know what (like I said newbie) on the dish when 2 of my HD channels stopped working.

    I called Dish Tech, went through the whole ordeal of resetting (not that much of a newbie) etc. and they said the problem would be referred to engineer and a solution would be found. I think that means , deal with it, not worth our time.

    One thing that did show up on System Info was
    LNB Drift Detected...
    0x03,0xa1, 119(e -7.03)(o 0.00), 110 (e -6.94)(o 0.00)

    Has anyone else had this problem? And if so, what could be the cause?
     
  2. dynarsore

    dynarsore New Member

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    IMO, the delay is caused by the receiver having a problem aquiring the signal. Probably caused by the LNB drift. You should have someone look at your lnb.
     
  3. psnarula

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    i agree with ^. sounds like the receiver is trying to lock a signal on the channel. do you know what sort of signal strengths are you getting? use the point dish screen (menu 6-1-1).
     
  4. MonkeyMD

    MonkeyMD New Member

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    Signal Strength is ~67 on satellite 119
     
  5. psnarula

    psnarula Godfather

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    which transponder?

    cycle through all transponders for the satellites at 110 and 119 and post your results here.
     
  6. MonkeyMD

    MonkeyMD New Member

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    Sat 119
    Trans Signal Strength
    01 0
    02 68
    03 0
    04 62
    05 95
    06 65
    07 98
    08 67
    09 0
    10 65
    11 73
    12 68
    13 72
    14 65
    15 74
    16 68
    17 73
    18 67
    19 74
    20 65
    21 74

    Sat 110

    01 85
    02 80
    03 64
    04 0
    05 78
    06 78
    07 78
    08 78
    09 82
    10 61
    11 81
    12 42
    13 62
    14 76
    15 77
    16 78
    17 78
    18 0
    19 78
    20 106
    21 77
    22 78
    23 78
    24 74
    25 80
    26 0
    27 0
    29 72
    31 90
     
  7. tnsprin

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    With numbers like that your dish needs to be realigned. Your delays may be caused by delays locking satellite signal.
    My signals (on a 622) for comparison. In some cases I checked some of the low numbers and found they are for spotbeams not meant for my area. I actually was thinking of checking my alignment as my numbers are lower than they were, we have had a lot of wind over the winter (and with yesterdays Northeaster).
    Sat 119
    01 118
    02 107
    03 112
    04 102
    05 0
    06 104
    07 0
    08 107
    09 0
    10 108
    11 111
    12 109
    13 109
    14 105
    15 107
    16 110
    17 106
    18 105
    19 107
    20 106
    21 108

    Sat 110

    01 101
    02 101
    03 77
    04 86
    05 94
    06 93
    07 94
    08 102
    09 100
    10 87
    11 93
    12 113
    13 90
    14 99
    15 95
    16 104
    17 90
    18 106
    19 87
    20 110
    21 93
    22 101
    23 102
    24 95
    25 53 (spotbeam not aimed at me)
    26 89
    27 0(spotbeam not aimed at me)
    29 0(spotbeam not aimed at me)
    31 76 (spotbeam not aimed at me)
     
  8. MonkeyMD

    MonkeyMD New Member

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    That's interesting. I knew from the time it was installed that they didn't know what they were doing. It was just a feeling and now that's being confirmed. The only signal over 100 on mine was a spotbeam. I didn't know what that was.

    So will Dish network send a tech to fix it or realign it. Otherwise, I guess i could learn how.

    Thanks for all the help.
     
  9. JonBlack

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    My 322 is doing the same thing with a similar "LNB Drift" message. The 522 changes channels like normal. The signals are all high 90's-100's, except for some spotbeams of course. Any suggestions for me?
     
  10. Kevin Brown

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    I have that delay too. I am personally convinced that it coincided with one of the many mostly useless software updates we have no choice in accepting.
     
  11. JonBlack

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    I'm wondering that myself. FWIW, I am getting the "LNB Drift" error on both boxes. The 322 definitely changes channels slower than my 522. I checked the signals on both boxes and almost all are over 100 with many over 110 on both 110/119. I guess as long as it's working I'll live with it.
     
  12. Kevin Brown

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    I am getting the LNB drift message too.

    I have a 522 (almost 2 years old). My wife has the newer one (622? 625? maybe 6 months old) I need to check her's sometime.
     
  13. GoVols

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    I called Dish Tech, went through the whole ordeal of resetting (not that much of a newbie) etc. and they said the problem would be referred to engineer and a solution would be found. I think that means , deal with it, not worth our time.

    One thing that did show up on System Info was
    LNB Drift Detected...
    0x03,0xa1, 119(e -7.03)(o 0.00), 110 (e -6.94)(o 0.00)

    Has anyone else had this problem? And if so, what could be the cause?[/QUOTE]

    E issued a tech alert last month concerning LnB Drift. A diagnostic was downloaded to newer receivers that discerns Lnb drift. if the values are +-5.0 but less than 12.0 your Lnb needs to be replaced. Your values indicate 119/110 even transponders are "out of sync." ie you're having problems or will have problems in the future.
     
  14. BNUMM

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    The only time I ever saw the LNB Drift message was when the dish had been hit by falling ice and bent the reflector. I replaced it and everything was fine. I doubt if this is your problem because you are not seeing any transponders with low signal. It could be moisture in a connector.
     
  15. Kevin Brown

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    I checked my signal levels the other day, and I'm getting from 85 to 89 from all three satellites. I still do need to check my wife's setup (I have a 522, she has a 625).
     
  16. Deke Rivers

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    i started getting those lags right after the last update..my siganl strength is great too
     
  17. HuggieBear

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    I agree it seem to have started with th last software upgrade before that everthing was a'ok But I felt it was some thing I can live with for now :)
     
  18. MonkeyMD

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    Well. A Dish Tech came out to my house and he said he didn't know what LNB Drift was and had never heard of it. He tried everything. Checking the inline amp. It was fine. He thought it might be the receiver, but he didn't have a spare one on hand. He repostiioned the dishes. He said they were out of alignment slightly. Now my signal strength is better. But even with that, there was still a delay of changing channels.

    I found a desciption of LNB Drift on this forum and showed it to him. He then went and changed all the LNB's (guess that's what you call them). Works fine now. Only slight delay (1-2 secs) now.

    Hope this helps.
     
  19. Kevin Brown

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    What is an LNB exactly?

    MDM- Did your signal strengths change at all?
     
  20. Jhon69

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    LNB:Low Noise Block Amplifier.It amplifies the signal that is reflected from the dish.
    :)
     
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