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#1 ·
Been waiting on this for a long time, says starting by years end. Anybody got any word on the rollout of this, I am so ready to drop my slooooow satellite internet.

3. So How Fast Will It Be?
The filing echoes what AT&T said back in September - speeds of 15-20Mbps, which is more than sufficient for streaming video and most online applications. However, it's worth noting that this number was given long before the FCC voted to revise its definition of broadband to 25Mbps.

http://consumerist.com/2015/03/03/what-we-know-about-attdirectvs-proposed-wireless-broadband-service/

http://www.dallasnews.com/business/technology/headlines/20140523-a-fast-evolving-technology-helps-att-in-directv-deal.ece
 
#479 · (Edited)
Anybody really happy that AT&T Fixed Wireless is coming to their state this year?

AT&T Fixed Wireless is expanding to 17 more states this year. Those additional 17 states are: Alabama, Arkansas, California, Florida, Illinois, Indiana, Kansas, Kentucky, Louisiana, Michigan, Mississippi, North Carolina, Ohio, South Carolina, Tennessee, Texas and Wisconsin.

The products and services are provided by subsidies and affiliates of AT&T under the carrier's brand, but not directly by the carrier itself. (Is this DirectTV Now Installers?)

Interesting where/how all this is heading.
As at most telecommunications companies, AT&T's wireless business is growing faster and is more profitable than its wireline side. One of its rivals, T-Mobile, is strictly wireless, which some analysts say gives it an advantage in a rapidly approaching future in which many customers will receive phone, internet and video service over wireless networks alone.

AT&T Launches First Wave of Fixed Wireless Internet Availability to Rural and Underserved Areas

AT&T launches fixed wireless internet in Georgia | FierceWireless

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/05/19/business/att-wireless-strike-union.html

att.com/internet/fixed-wireless.html.
 
#481 ·
Interesting I think this will definitely up the competition if Verizon and T-Mobile also start this. Might cause more towers to be built as well and if they have to build more might get to the point that even people in rural areas have a full signal on their phones. if I understand the technology correctly the fixed wireless will be getting service off of cell phone towers.
 
#480 · (Edited)
Don't look now, cause America's favorite (lol) cable co. is entering the streaming market to compete with DirectTV Now and the myriad of others coming online.

Looking for all the cable cos. to enter the streaming market.
This should insure some decent cheap packages without all the junk channels.

DirectTV Now better have a very slick and intuitive portal (soon to be released) to fend off the competition.

Comcast Rolls the Dice With Xfinity Instant TV | Service Providers | TechNewsWorld

C Spire's Place Among Cable TV Challengers | Service Providers | TechNewsWorld

Is This the Beginning of the End for the Set-Top Box? | Entertainment | TechNewsWorld
 
#483 ·
If that is true AT&T will have to up the 160GB limit using the 1 hour of HD video is 1GB. Not sure if there is any difference between 720P streaming and 1080P in data usage I just now that streaming with WWE network I use a GB for every hour I stream and my PS4 output is 1080P
 
#484 ·
Rise Broadband, Redzone, Google and many others offer unlimited data for around 50-60 bucks, will be interesting when these fixed wireless providers as well as Verizon, Sprint, and the many others entering the market began to offer services on each others turf, I think AT&T will have to offer unlimited or Zero Rating for DirectTV Now in order to compete.

There has been a distinct shift in FCC policy in favor of wireless broadband

4G LTE leveraged for fixed wireless broadband in rural communities - RCR Wireless News
 
#485 ·
Rural Northern New England sure could use some more no data limits high speed broadband options, all this new tech seems to be out west or down south.
The cable high speed that is around has caps, and DSL if available is only 10 to 15 megs. If you are really rural you can't get any of those.
For Hughes net internet the caps are so low for such a high price. IMHO.
 
#489 · (Edited)
Rural Northern New England sure could use some more no data limits high speed broadband options, all this new tech seems to be out west or down south.
The cable high speed that is around has caps, and DSL if available is only 10 to 15 megs. If you are really rural you can't get any of those.
For Hughes net internet the caps are so low for such a high price. IMHO.
Many avenues for DirectTV Now to really take off.

Lots of Fixed Wireless going into Northern New England
Unlimited Fixed Wireless for 41 bucks a month, hard to beat that.
Redzone Wireless - High-Speed Internet for Homes and Businesses in Maine

Another one going nationwide.
News, Press, and Media - Redzone Wireless - High-Speed Internet for Homes and Businesses in Maine

AT&T Fixed Wireless will be in Connecticut soon, easy/quick to set up Fixed Wireless networks, look for them to compete nationwide

The combined AT&T and DIRECTV will use fixed wireless local loop (WLL) technology to bring coverage for new or enhanced high-speed Internet access to approximately 13 million customer locations nationwide in largely underserved, rural areas.

https://www.att.com/Common/merger/files/pdf/22_state_map.pdf

AT&T in Vermont
http://legislature.vermont.gov/assets/Documents/2016/WorkGroups/House Commerce/Bills/H.117/Witness Testimony, Comments/W~Chuck Storrow~ATandT - Fixed Wireless Local Loop - State One-Pager Template~2-12-2015.pdf

Vermont unlimited for 39-59 bucks a month.
Cloud Alliance » Home Broadband Plans

Vermont, 40 bucks a month, all volunteers, really neat, little guys and the big guys are all hustling to provide Fixed Wireless service.
svtbbc
currentnetworkmaps - svtbbc

New Hampshire, 40 bucks a month
FAQs

Growing leaps and bounds, check your local
List of Fixed Wireless Broadband Providers

Click your state
Internet & TV Service Areas | WireSeek

Enter your zip, although this site is missing many Fixed Wireless providers, it may help some.
Fixed Wireless Internet In the United States at a Glance
 
#490 ·
Live in Maine - Redzone, according to their maps, doesn't cover much of Maine which again is the problem. I think their internet costs are more than I pay today for a different vendor. Plus based upon their model you need a view of their towers and I'm sure will be store sensitive.

I'm sure it will come but not very soon.
 
#491 ·
Wow, cheaper than 41 bucks for unlimited? Are you rural or city?

With the Fixed Wireless operators switching over to LTE it seems to have diminished the line of sight requirements. AT&T is starting out with LTE service.

Telrad Networks' LTE solutions, especially the high-powered BreezeCOMPACT 3000 base stations used by Redzone, use several advanced techniques, such as 4×4 radio with advanced MIMO, to overcome many such non-line-of-sight (NLOS) scenarios.

Redzone Wireless Selects Telrad Networks for Pioneering LTE Network Across Maine - Telrad Networks
Do you live in any of the shaded area's of this map?
Broadband Map - Technology - National Broadband Map

AT&T says 13 million new fixed wireless customers by 2020.
 
#493 ·
Get ready for 5G DirectTV.
DirecTV Now on a fixed wireless 5 G signal
This trial helps show that the new reality is coming fast,"

AT&T Kicks Off 5G-Powered DirecTV Now Trial | Multichannel

AT&T Kicks Off 5G-Powered DirecTV Now Trial | Broadcasting & Cable

Anybody think the below will happen?

With more targeted and efficient messaging, the Credit Suisse analyst believes networks could reduce ad loads from their current 15 minutes per hour to as little as two to five minutes per hour - putting networks on closer footing with ad-free subscription video-on-demand services such as Netflix and Amazon Video.

Targeting a Path Forward for TV Ads, Data Could Create a $100B Upside | Broadcasting & Cable
 
#496 ·
if you want a better idea of where AT&T might be rolling this out, below is a link of map that shows the areas that are eligible for caf II funding, which is the main funds AT&T is using to deploy this service.

if your area isn't eligible, you most likely won't be getting this fixed wireless service anytime soon

Federal Communications Commission GIS Program

also, the wording on the map seems to confirm that the funding is based on census blocks. this means that if there is just a single household in your block that has an isp that provides advertised speeds of at least 10/1, your block won't be eligible for funding.
 
#497 · (Edited)
Wireless Rules and Regs are fluid on Capitol Hill right now. We are seeing many different demands for rural broadband which the current admin are favorable with. We will see a revolution in broadband access, no doubt about that, and with that an explosion of Internet tv services like DirectTV Now and the myriad of others entering the space.

Many plans, similar to the below, from all over the U.S. are being submitted to Washington.

Manchin, along with Sen. Jerry Moran, R-Kan., penned a letter urging the Federal Communications Commission to move forward with the Remote Areas Fund by structuring it so that it expands broadband access to tens of thousands of West Virginians and Kansans living in rural and remote areas.

Expanding high-speed internet access to rural areas has been one of the few issues that's drawn bipartisan support in a sharply divided Congress. And while nothing's assured, backing by Federal Communications Commission Chairman Ajit Pai may help push those congressional efforts across the finish line.

Pai this week talked up a Senate bill, S. 1013, that would effectively legislate his proposal for spurring broadband investment in remote areas, where internet access is available through 1990s-era dial-up services.

Rural Broadband Efforts Gain Bipartisan Momentum - Morning Consult

Says it all, Seated next to Trump, Stephenson, AT&T CEO

Wireless and drone execs praised President Trump as he pledged to cut down regulations

Initiatives to expand broadband are crucial for West Virginia economy
 
#500 ·
Wireless Rules and Regs are fluid on Capitol Hill right now. We are seeing many different demands for rural broadband which the current admin are favorable with. We will see a revolution in broadband access, no doubt about that, and with that an explosion of Internet tv services like DirectTV Now and the myriad of others entering the space.

Many plans, similar to the below, from all over the U.S. are being submitted to Washington.

Manchin, along with Sen. Jerry Moran, R-Kan., penned a letter urging the Federal Communications Commission to move forward with the Remote Areas Fund by structuring it so that it expands broadband access to tens of thousands of West Virginians and Kansans living in rural and remote areas.

Says it all, Seated next to Trump, Stephenson, AT&T CEO

Wireless and drone execs praised President Trump as he pledged to cut down regulations

Initiatives to expand broadband are crucial for West Virginia economy
They may want it.....I do not see how in the world with this FCC, and have and the political oposition thats exists now!
Sounds dead before it even starts.....
For some reason this once great country, is more about greed and money thats it......sad
 
#499 · (Edited)
Targeted advertising is where we are heading.

They have your digital address.
They have your purchasing data thru your credit/debit card.

They see that CTJon is a, let's say, a hobbiest sausage maker, from your credit/debit data they see you have been buying sausage making equipment, bulk meats, etc. etc..

They hit you with a 2 minute targeted
ad for special Pork Butt spice infused, deluxe crusted, smoked, hand wrapped, wax dipped, overnight shipped roast, which you will certainly watch because it will peak your sausage making interest, this ad is worth many times what a generic ad is worth to the sellers.

The programming guys can charge several times over for this kind of targeted advertising, thus they are able to reduce the amount of BS generic advertising time because the targeted ad results in many more sales than generic advertising.

Don't you just love sitting thru a Tampon commercial, lol, all that goes away.

The content providers will be glad to produce an extra 10 minutes of content because they will not be loosing viewers to walk-a-ways during BS generic advertising.
Thus their ratings go up.
 
#504 ·
So you think the ads on TV will be different depending upon who is watching the show? I find it hard to believe but then again probably would have felt the same about ads on internet a few years ago. Hope they have fun with that - that is why many of us these days avoid ads entirely with DVR, run site blockers, use products like ApplePay which doesn't give vendors your credit card info etc.
What I think is that they will continue the amount of ads or increase and make them targeted when they can.
 
#506 · (Edited)
D.C. is open for business again, many groups looking for ways to bring fast internet to rural areas. happening at a fast pace now. DirectTV Now, once polished, will be one of the video providers that survive the new technology onslaught.

It will be used to hit areas with only two to 200 people living in each square mile. In areas with less than two people per square mile, satellite coverage will be used, and areas with over 200 people in this range will rely on fixed wireless and limited fiber connections.

The lofty goal is to help bring broadband access to the 23.4 million rural Americans currently living without high-speed internet by July 4, 2020. It's an aggressive target, but at least somewhat admirable

Microsoft wants all of rural America to get high-speed broadband

Microsoft commits $10 billion to bring broadband internet to rural America

Broadband Coalition Proposes New Fixed Wireless Service | Multichannel

Lookout Cable Cos. DirectTV Now and AT&T's fixed wireless internet will be a major player in urban areas soon.
AT&T Delivers DirecTV Now as Part of Fixed Wireless 5G Trial
 
#511 ·
.....DirectTV Now, once polished, will be one of the video providers that survive the new technology onslaught....
They best get to work, they have a long way to go before they are competitive, IMHO, and their competitors in that space are not going to stand still.
 
#508 · (Edited)
Where the gold is.

Forget about wireless, satellite, wired etc.

The real money is in advertising (look at giant Google). At&T is working feverishly to get their internet portal polished up and glitch free for the soon to be revealing.

Just one of the vendors for AT&T's new portal is expecting 100 Million a year revenues alone.

How will DirectTV satellite service rout their targeted advertising to sat. subscribers? Is there enough data capacity to address each subscriber with specific targeted advertising?

AT&T AdWorks is a nationwide leader in addressable TV advertising. We combine unparalleled scale in addressable TV advertising with the best targeting capability in the TV business to deliver a better ROI for advertisers. And we can extend addressable TV campaigns across screens. The AT&T AdWorks product suite includes: Addressable TV Advertising, Data-Driven Linear, Interactive TV and Premium Digital Video Advertising (including DIRECTV NOW and Otter Media properties).

As for other uses for the data, Rodriquez was a bit more coy. "Our ability to personalize and to target the advertising to every device-not just every consumer-is significantly higher than it has been in the past," he conceded.

I see a limited free AT&T online TV service coming for those that just refuse to buy tv programming.

For his part, Rodriquez conceded that the inclusion of targeted advertising represented "an entirely new cost structure for AT&T."

A new att.net is on its way

Synacor Wins AT&T Portal Services | Synacor Inc.

Cross-Screen Addressable Advertising Is Here

DirecTV Now to gather customer data to improve user experience, build targeted ad revenue | FierceCable
 
#510 · (Edited)
Generic ads yes, The highly coveted individual targeted ad is coming soon. Going to use a lot more network data.

Now advertisers, MVPDs, and broadcasters have the power to simultaneously deliver multiple and distinct messages to individual households during a single commercial break. For the first time you can send targeted television media exactly where it needs to go - to the right household, the right consumer, at the right time - and measure the direct result of your investment.

Tag Team
AT&T Inc., Dish Network Corp. and WPP PLC are teaming up to buy Invidi Technologies Corp., which focuses on targeted television advertisements, the companies said Monday.

Powerful Stuff
It's been said, that an executive of VISA - the credit card company - is able to predict somebody's divorce one year ahead of the people concerned. "we tell Google first, we always tell Google first."

Got to understand, At&T is becoming a competitor to Google, Portals, targeted advertising, the whole works. It is all about eyeballs seeing ads. It's no longer AT&T versus Dish, Verizon, etc.. One reason AT&T is going all out to get rural customers with Fixed wireless. Let the games begin.

Google now tracks and collects your OFFLINE credit card purchases

INVIDI Technologies - INVIDI Technologies
 
#512 ·
So to do targeted ads I would think they'd have to store ads on my DVR and then insert them as needed. I wonder how much space that would take.
Gives me more reason to watch only recorded so I can skip ads and if they try and prevent we just will move to another solution. I make it a practice to never click on an ad and if I see something I actually like I wait a day or so and go on the site directly. I'm almost at the point where I'd pay companies not to advertise which would be OK with them I assume. I wonder how much of our medical costs are due to drug ads and then lawyer ads to sue the medical companies - I'll bet not insignificant.
 
#513 ·
If they stored a full hour's worth of ads that would be a small fraction of your DVR's capacity, and allow insertion into about 50 hours worth of programming you watch. That assumes they insert two minutes' worth per hour which is about all the room there is for insertion AFAIK. Which only applies if you watch 50 hours worth and never FF through the commercials.

They may download some of that over the internet, but there's no reason they couldn't continue delivering targeted ads via satellite. It isn't like they could or would target so finely there would be a million different ads for all their customers. There might not be all that many more different ads than they show today, just targeted better. I mean, they might be able to target a hunting enthusiast with a hunting/outdoor related ad, but even if they knew you were say a bow hunting fisherman that would be a pretty tiny segment to produce an ad targeted for.
 
#517 ·
If they stored a full hour's worth of ads that would be a small fraction of your DVR's capacity, and allow insertion into about 50 hours worth of programming you watch. That assumes they insert two minutes' worth per hour which is about all the room there is for insertion AFAIK. Which only applies if you watch 50 hours worth and never FF through the commercials.
You really think they will allow the viewer to FF through the personalized ads? I expect it will be just like many on-demand shows are now, FF will be disabled.
 
#515 ·
This could upset the apple cart or be a great thing for AT&T and other Fixed Wireless providers, watching this closely. Would like to see .gov finally do something for rural access, we have a chance here, billions have been wasted thus far.

This free market solution can bring internet access to millions in rural America - no taxes needed
Others agree with you. I don't think it'll ever be as reliable as fiber/cable due to propagation challenges. But if it's 70% as reliable at 20% of the capx, it's a HUGE winner not only for Verizon and ATT, but for the consumer as well.

AT&T, Verizon's 5G Will Be a Cable Killer First, Say Cowen

AT&T, Verizon's 5G Will Be a Cable Killer First, Say Cowen

Impending 5G wireless service will be initially used to compete with cable service, opines Cowen & Co. analyst Colby Synesael. It'll take till about 2020 or so before 5G really leads to much faster speeds on your smartphone, he opines. Also, Verizon and AT&T are going to need a lot of fiber optics to make it all work.

By Tiernan Ray
Updated May 16, 2017 6:16 p.m. ET
 
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